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AUXLANG  October 1997, Week 2

AUXLANG October 1997, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Towards a standard form for international languages

From:

"Robert J. Petry" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:47:07 -0700

Content-Type:

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Raymond A. Brown wrote:

> Bob Petry wrote:

> >Speedwords certainly meets most of the requirements. The problem seems to
> >be "it
> >can't be pronounced"
>
> Oh yes it can.  I give the rules on Richard Kennaway's website.  Though I
> do think the rules are more complex than they need be.

Exactly, it can be pronounced.

> >and it "can't be both a shorthand and auxiliary language at
> >the same time." Well, it can be pronounced, and it is both a shorthand, or
> >rather, a brief script, and an international auxiliary language.
>
> Yes, yes - the brief script bit's Ok - it's the claim that it can be used
> for note-taking in English, Spanish, Japannese, Zulu, Mandarin, Arabic &
> any other language spoken on this planet.  But I think in this context
> we're concerned primarily with its use as an IAL.

Surprises are on the way. I now know how it's done. And, it's so simple it's, welll,
it's simple. Sometimes the obvious stares us in the face and we overlook it. On my
first date I couldn't find the toothpaste. It was on the sink right in front of me.
My mother had to find it for me. She wasn't excited. I was.[....][snip]

> Who decides what is perfect?

I could say something, but I won't.

> >> I notice yet again that any idea of a natlang solution is apparently ruled
> >> out from the start.  What a surprise.
> >
> >Well, if, as so many seem to think, Speedwords is nothing more than English in
> >short form, then Speedwords is a great natlang. And, a fast way to teach the
> >world English. That's what I like about Mote, it is very flexible.
>
> Hang on - IF Speedwords is this, or can be "flexed" to this purpose,
> doesn't it render itself superfluous.  English seems to be making great
> headway without it.

That's exactly why, among many, Speedwords is going to make it.

> [snip]
> >
> >Pei makes this comment. "This simply means that there is no rhyme or reason to
> >the controversies now bitterly raging as to whether it would be better to use a
> >natural, a modified, or a constructed language as an international medium of
> >communications. Esperanto, Interglossa, Basic English, natural English, French,
> >Chinese -- it makes no difference which one is selected, provided all
> >people now
> >living agree to use it, not primarily for themselves, but for their
> >descendants.
>
> Yes, indeed.  I tried to say something along these lines not so long back &
> got flamed for my pains.

Progress is always slowed down by flaming. Look at poor Galileo. Boy, did he get
flamed.

> But back to James' orginal post.
> Will you ditch Speedwords and join with him & others to fashion the (near)
> perfect IAL with the greatest facility for the greatest number?
>
> I think not.  Indeed, why should you?

Right on. Mote is not in conflict with James, or anyone on this list. It will
enhance whatever comes along.

> The idea sounds to me like a totalitarian nightmare.
>
> Over the last three centuries there have surely appeared more than enough
> conIALs.  If any deserve to survive, good luck to them.  Let them be used.
> Let Bob promote Rap Lin Rie,

Ok, I'm doing it, and getting results beyond my wildest expectations. And, I
certainly encourage all to do it with their language with a "passion". Nothing is
really accomplished without it. I believe it's called the "Magnificent Obsession".

> Robin Gaskell promote Interglossa, the Novial
> group get Novial up and running again.  Let Afrihili, Babm & the others
> live a little. The world's big enough.  Then let the people of the world
> decide.
>
> Pax omnibus,

Does that mean "Free bus fare"? Pax is "free" in Speedwords. That is pa = payment,
and the opposite after a vowel is -x. The opposite of pay is don't pay, or free.
And, isn't a bus in Spanish, or some such language the Omnibus? Just asking?Oh, lest
I forget.....
Al l sue a al d v,
Bob Petry

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