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AUXLANG  October 1997, Week 2

AUXLANG October 1997, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Reductive grammar

From:

rmay <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:08:24 -0700

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Don HARLOW wrote:
> > >
> Esperanto equivalents:
>
> Mi eng^ardene mortpafis la kuniklon.

I assume this means about what the Eng does, that the shooting
took place in the garden, implying, but not requiring, that the
shooter as well as the rabbit was there.

> Mi mortpafis la eng^ardenan kuniklon. (Or, if you want to be totally
> symmetric, you could say, legitimately: "Mi eng^ardenan mortpafis la
> kuniklon" ... but best leave this to poets.)
> Mi eng^ardena mortpafis la kuniklon.
>
> Most speakers of Esperanto, however, will fall back on more usual
> habits for at least the second and third of these and use a standard
> prepositional phrase (with appropriate syntactical placement and
> lexical modifications) to give the appropriate impression, just as
> you did above with English. (For some reason, compressing short
> adverbial prepositional phrases into actual adverbs is stylistically
> chic, while compressing short adjectival prepositional phrases into
> actual adjectives is almost unknown in actual usage.)

This is interesting.  I've long suspected that the powers of Eo have
largely been neglected by many users.  I like words like 'enghardena'
and, if and when I do more with Eo, will take every opportunity to
use them.

Also, the ambiguity of English in this set typifies, I think, the
disadvantages of totally isolating languages.

Back to Eo:  I would like to familiarize myself with recent
developments in Eo.  Developments of the nature of the 'icho'
ending.  I think that Eo is so well-established by now that users
can experiment with it and improve it in many ways.  Actually, the
-ino thing I think of as fairly minor, tho I agree that it was a
mistake initially.  Is there a site where such things are discussed?
>
> (Another cute possibility is "Mi eng^ardenen mortpafis la kuniklon",
> which essentially says: "I saw the dwatted wabbit standing outside
> my garden looking longingly at my cawwots, so I whipped up my twusty
> double-bore and let fly, and the blast hurled the furry cadaver over
> the fence in among the cabbages." The expression "Mi mortpafis la
> kunklon [ke g^i estu] eng^ardena", where the bracketed expression is
> understood, has a similar meaning, though a stronger impression of
> volition as opposed to mere result.)
>
> ---
>


--
Rex F. May
"That government is best which governs somebody else."
Visit my 'Tceqli' artificial language site at:
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