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AUXLANG  January 1998, Week 3

AUXLANG January 1998, Week 3

Subject:

International Organization Accepting Auxiliary Language

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:46:58 +0100

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>MIME-Version: 1.0
>X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by nut.brown.edu id
>VAA04909
>Date:         Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:31:05 -0800
>Reply-To: International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>
>Sender: International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>
>From: "Mark P. Line" <[log in to unmask]>
>Organization: http://www36.pair.com/waldzell/
>Subject:      Re: International Organization Accepting Auxiliary Language
>To: Multiple recipients of list AUXLANG <[log in to unmask]>
>Status:
>
>Kjell Rehnstr=F6m wrote:
>>
>> There is only one method to get an auxiliary language accepted and that
>> is to use one.
>Mark P. Line wrote:
>Yes. That's what we're doing, too.
>
>
>> And very few people have _chosen_ English, as has been pointed out >> on
>>this list. We learn English at school because it is on the curriculum,
>> because it is in mass media every day in and day out, because English is
>> the only language mainstream people speak today so that they know
>> everything about England and the US but cannot even enumerate the 3 >>
>>most important cities in their neigbouring countries. At the same time >>
>>that every person virtually in the industrialized world could be his own
>> publisher publication of e.g. pocket calendars is so "globalized" that
>> the world maps are printed in England or the US and they cannot get
>> anything in their adjacent countries right.
>
>
>Hyperbole is the greatest thing known to mankind, no exceptions.
>
No discussion about that. What I meant to say was that at the same time as
every person virtually can publish his own magazine it is impossible for a
company publishing maps for a calender to get names right, inspite of the
fact that there are computer-aided publishing that should help avoiding
such things.
>
>> A Brittish named reporter could think that the day in Helsinki is 6 hours
>> long in September. That's what I saw in the international "The European".
>> It makes one laugh - hysterically.
>
>It's good to know that only a Brit or an American would ever make such
>an error. It's because they speak English, you know.
>
The European Newspaper aims at being some kind of Pan-European and what I
ment to say was that a Swede writing about things Brittish could very well
make similar mistakes - or even worse - but if he or she were writing to
his home desk in the UK then they would at once see the mistake and be able
to correct it.
 
>> I want a reasonably easy international auxiliary language that normally
>> gifted people can learn so that we who are not native speakers of any
>> former collonial language can make ourselves understood accross the
>> borders.
>
>So you're not interested in the ability of those who _are_ native
>speakers of a former (or present?) colonial language to make themselves
>understood across the borders? Quite a few French, Spanish, Portuguese,
>Dutch, German, Danish, Russian, Arabic, Turkish and Chinese speakers
>might be interested in that, even if you're not. Besides speakers of
>English, of course.
>
What I am interested in is an alternative in which people who want to, may
express their thoughts.  It is quite voluntary.
 
  >
>> I think - as you know - that this language may be Interlingua,
>> but knowing auxlang there are many other opinions - voiced in English!
>
>Yes, because English is the _currently_ most widespread global IAL.
>You're proposing that some other language might better take on that
>role, but it's still quite natural for the discussion to be carried on
>in English until that happens. It's quite natural for _every_
>international discussion to be carried on in English until that happens.
 
It might be that if there were a lot of people from other countries on this
list it is very possible that many of them would feel much more at home
using interlingua or esperanto than English.
 
>And your English is much, much better than my Interlingua will ever be.
>
That remains to be proven.
 
>> Let them compete. Only that way will we know what functions in the best
>> way.
>
>They are competing. At the moment, English is ahead. Maybe Interlingua
>needs a better lobby.
>
Yes, wanting to use Interlingua or any other auxiliary language for
international communication is like standing on the shore shouting at a
tanker to turn... Man has succeded in doing so much else so I can't see why
this shouldn't work. And the tanker would eventually....
 
 
 
 
Kjell [log in to unmask]
Kjell Rehnstroem
Vaenortsgatan 87
S-752 64  UPPSALA
Suedia - Sweden

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