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AUXLANG  January 1998, Week 5

AUXLANG January 1998, Week 5

Subject:

To Euroclone or not to Euroclone

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:47:33 +0100

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        [Marcos 980128]
>
>That's the problem with Interlinguaists. You are always thinking about
>convincing.
 
        [Kjell]
Perhaps because we are relatively new on the market.
 
        [Marcos]
>In fact, I-a seems be constructed for having a good
>storefront, but where did we put useness facility?
 
        [Kjell]
Do you mean that Interlingua looks fine but is difficult to use? If that's
what you mean then I cannot aggree. When switching from Esperanto to
Interlingua you must do lots of reading to get into the new system of
thinking, but that - and the spelling - were the only things I had to work
with. But this gave me a somewhat new picture and new suggestions about
unexspected links between my own language and other European tongues, not
only Interlingua's source languages.
 
        [Marcos]
=2E..not >much more easy than Spanish or Italian without conjugation.
 
        [Kjell]
What makes Interlingua much easier than Spanish (or Italian) is not only
that the verbs have only one form in every tence but that the vocabulary is
free from language-specific forms that may disturb the student. Without
elapsing into a treatice about VOCABULARY IN INTERLINGUA I would say that
the regularity in interlingua lies just in that you learn _oculo_ and
_ocular_, _oculista_, teste ocular_ not _ojo_ _ocular_ _oculista_ or
_testigo ocular_. So the easiness in interlingua is not just a simpler
morphology.
 
        [Marcos]
>And there is something we auxlangers shouldn't forget; european
>adopted auxlang would become soon the really international language,
 
        [Kjell 980129]
Would, yes. But we don't know that.
 
        [Marcos]
>and it would be a marvellous thing for people of China, Russia,
>Scandinavia, Morocco, Arabia, Pakistan, Zaire, Japan, Corea, Bulgary,
>India, Poland, Irak, Egypt, Servia, Turkey, Camboya, Algeria... if
>that auxiliary language be easy also for them. How can we europeans be
>so egoist of chosing an IAL that it's only going to be easy for us?
 
        [Kjell]
I understand that you were hammering away on your message, but think again!
 
You wrote: "And it would be a marvellous thing for people of
=2E...Scandinavia .... (a lot of other countries are following) Algeria... i=
f
that auxiliary languge be easy also for them.
 
I am from Scandinavia and Interlingua is easy for me.
 
Then you write about Egyptians, Serbs, Poles and Bulgarians and then say
that we Europeans are so egoistic as to chosing such a language as
Interlingua. What is common between me, a Pole, a Bulgarian, a speaker of
Quechua or Aymar=E1 is the western vocabulary as it is handed down to our
languages, and as my Arabic is very limited - not to say embryonic - I have
to use Western Language material to communicate with an Egyptian.
 
Believe this or not, but only when I had learnt Polish well enough to be
able to read litterature and tell funny stories in it, I really understood
Latin! The paradoxical fact is that Polish has taken so much from Latin -
not only translated morphemes, but syntax as well, so when reading
litterary text in Polish - or Latin - you will suddenly exclaim: Gosh but
that is like in Polish!
Or Oh, that looks like Latin!
 
Esperanto is also very influenced by Polish (and Russian) on a more
deep-structure level.
 
These two passages above are ment to demonstrate that the western
vocabulary is nothing just for the Romance languages and English. It may be
said to have permeated the languages of all Europe in one form or another.
 
To use another kind of vocabulary would mean that we had to have much
stronger motivation and probably a very strong political decision as the
motor.
 
As I have worked teaching Swedish to adults I know the tremendous
importance of having a good grasp of the International vocabulary as it is
to be found in English and other European languages.
 
Adult speakers of Arabic or Persian have great difficulties learning e.g.
Swedish, but if they know a European language (Interlingua) they get a
much better start. So some years of Interlingua in the lower grades at
school that is what I would wish every young person starting first grade.
 
An auxiliary language must have such a vocabulary and grammar that it helps
the student who happens to learn it, as long as there are other important
languages that we have to learn. Interlingua as first foreign language in
European schools would mean that there could be more room for other, even
extra-european languages, because whatever happens, Chinese and Japanese
will be more and more important. So everybody should not have to fiddle
with French and German beside English.
 
        [Marcos Jan 29]
Well, perhaps I didn't express myself right. I meant that with success
of an auxlang many people who earns his money by teaching or
interpreting (translating?) languages could became unemployed.
 
        [Kjell 980129]
It would take some time and I think that most interpreters and translaters
could find enough time to adjust.
 
 
 
 
 
Kjell [log in to unmask]
Kjell Rehnstroem
Vaenortsgatan 87
S-752 64 UPPSALA
Suedia - Sweden

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