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AUXLANG  February 1998, Week 4

AUXLANG February 1998, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Assorted Novial Observations

From:

Ken Caviness <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:52:06 -0500

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Je 09:13 AM 2/23/98 +0300, Kjell Rehnstr=F6m skribis:
 
>Just for the record, my reason for leaving the Novial list was that I
>thought they were working in a non-rational way. When I got into it I just
>knew about Jespersens book from 1928 or was it 30, and Valter Ahlstedt had
>been talking about the Interlingue Jurie's work. So when I joined the list
>I had gone to the University Library here and borrowed J:s book and Novial
>Lexike from Ingvar Stenstr=F6m, actually. Then I stardet to learn the
>language. To my amazement it turned out that a lot of changes had been made
>whereas only some members of the list could write in Novial. I had imagined
>that it should be like the standard of the Interling list where people make
>efforts to write in Interlingua and that works, and suddenly they are fully
>fledged Interlingua communicators.
>
>When I was told that there had reasently been made a change to the verb
>endings whereby every verb should be labelled with an -er I lost interest.
>To me that was not seroius. Others may know more about it and have a more
>accurate view of the thing, but as one don't have oceans of time to one's
>disposal one has got to look at one's priorities...
>
>As for the verbs this -r marker for all verbs irrespective of whether they
>are infinitives or present tence or progressive present, they look queer to
>me. What has Scandinavian present tence go to do in an international
>language? Or is it in the imitation of esperanto _moshto_ for _majesty_? La
>regha moshto klopodas manghi la bulkon.
>Li regali majestate penar manjar li pane.
 
May I assume that here the word "pane" is equivalent to the Esperanto word
"bulko"?  (There is an E-o word "pano", meaning bread.)
 
>Hmm ->:-l
 
I don't understand your point, anyway.  Would you care to explain?
 
Just for the record:
 
Maybe by now the members of the auxlang list would like to know why _I_=20
left the novial-l list.  (Hey, we've heard from others, right?)
 
Well, the primary reason was because I had hoped to learn a lot about=20
Novial (Jespersen's versions) on the list, and it turned out that most=20
of the messages were arguments about various proposed changes to Novial. =20
And when James Chandler very kindly began making available information=20
about the language at his website(s), I found I could learn about=20
without trying to sift through much chaff. =20
 
If you wonder what it was like on the list, reread the last couple=20
weeks of messages on auxlang.  That's why I left. =20
 
Before anyone asks:  no, I didn't "join" the Novial revitalization=20
group in the sense of participating in the modification (*) -- =20
although no-one forbad me from voting I stated up front that I was=20
an interested observer, mostly seeking hard-to-obtain information=20
on Novial itself rather than its modification.  And I was curious=20
about the Novial revival cum modification group.
 
(*) I did make one suggestion to simplify the language, but was told=20
that it would involve too many additional changes, all against the=20
Spirit of Novial.  Thereafter I resumed full "bystander" status until=20
my departure.
 
Salutojn kaj bondezirojn al ^ciuj!
 
Ken
 
  *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  | Ken CAVINESS           Physics at Southern Adventist University |
  | [log in to unmask]             ESPERANTO =3D Lingvo internacia |
  | http://southern.edu/~caviness/     E-o/English/Fran=E7ais/Deutsch |
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