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AUXLANG  February 1998, Week 4

AUXLANG February 1998, Week 4

Subject:

Fw: What is Marcos' proposal about? (fwd)

From:

James Chandler <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:54:12 GMT

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Aaah, now I see what Marcos is trying to do....
 
1. The forms in -ita, -uta look too much like passives, and I must
 say I am surprised that Marcos doesn't see this as a native S
 speaker.
2. If you have -ita, -uta on the English model, why not also -ata?
 Then you would not need two different inf. endings.
3. Having two inf. endings means that each verb has to be learnt by
 its infinitival form.  This is a big step backward from the N system,
 because there everything revolved round the ground form of the verb.
4. The passive participles of -ita, -uta verbs are -itat, -utat,
 which really contain too marks of the passive and are v. unnatural.
5. Although the -er and -ar infs are natural enough, the -itar and
 -utar ones are really quite unnecessarily unnatural - a big step
 back to the Ido ways, only even worse (Ido has distributar,
 kontributar (or -bucar, never can remember), but definar etc.).
 
Please believe me, everyone, that before arriving at my present
direction, I spent many an evening going through every possible
permutation, including everything you have seen from Marcos.
I came to the conclusion that I could either make a move back to
schematism, POS marking etc., aiming the lang at Europe plus, or
aim it slightly more narrowly, but drop POS marking as a strict
requirement, and allow certain other naturalistic elements like
-(t)ione.
The only coherent schematic version I could come up with was:
Ground forms in -a.
Infinitives in either TU or -r.
Nouns in -e only, with suffixes for m/f (you may remember my "search
for a male suffix" post - that was the time I was deepest in thought
about a schematic direction).
Adjs in (possibly optional) -i.
Past tense in -(e)d, other tenses/moods with VA/HA/VUD.
Advs in -im.
No -(t)ione suffix, and -ese or -eso instead of -itate.  -iv used
as in Ido.
 
So there, a perfectly good schematic direction.  It is either that,
it seems to me, or take the direction I am now taking.  There is no
*viable* middle way.
 
James Chandler
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