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AUXLANG  February 1998, Week 4

AUXLANG February 1998, Week 4

Subject:

My response to Bruce's message flood.

From:

Marcos Franco <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:11:16 GMT

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Hello everyone,
 
I don't want to flood the list with replies to Bruce's recent
messages, so I'll coment it all in this only one.
 
=46irstly, he says I've gone to Novial-list to "hijack" his project, and
he says I'm there with an attitude of "You are wrong, do what I say".
Well, what is the reality?: I've just gone there to present my
proposal to people which is interested in Novial. Some of that people
is not here in Auxlang-l, so I have to post there to expose my ideas
to them. If they don't like my ideas, I'll simply shut up and not
bother anymore. But before that, I have to expose and defend my
proposal, as you'll understand.
 
About the proposal itself, Bruce has written a paragraph I find
interesting:
"We both, Marcus and I, want to get away with the dual use of -e/-a/-o
in J's Novial. The big difference is that he likes, and preserves, the
one that I think was J's only serious mistake in what was otherwise a
beautiful scheme. And as a result he drops, without regret, what I
believe to be the better, more international, use of the -a and -o
suffixes."
 
I think this is clearly the start point of our divergence. But let me
say what I think of this:
I think too, that from Jespersen's two uses of the -e/a/o system, the
one of sex marking is the most natural one. But it's *less*
profitable. It's used rarely in normal usage of the language, as
usually sex marking is no needed. But the other one (-e/a/o for verbs)
is used a lot. Bruce says he has not abolished Jespersen's beloved
-e/a/o verbal system. He has just changed the forms to -e/ar/nse.
Well, I have not to explain here the problems of using a romance
infinitive as present tense verb. Or the inferiority of -nse beside
Jespersen's -o.
 
But there are even further reasons for me to prefer -e/a/o as a verbal
system. Under the lines of my reform proposal, there are another
consequent benefits that mustn't be disregarded:
+ We can end preterite verbs on a fixed -ED, clearly superior to those
-ad, -id, -ud which only provoke confusion to the reader.
+ Flexion (which is present in N and N98 derivation) desappears.
 =20
By the way, -a/-o sex markers are not incompatible with this system.
They could be engaged to it if/when the system succeded as (at least)
occidental auxiliary language, or even before that, if a majority of
users thought it's not necessary to keep unshared PoS markings.
 
I know Bruce is frightened. And I understand it. He is terrified
because he realizes my proposal is a clear improve in many aspects
over his project, and he's afraid he looses part of his supporters and
protagonism.=20
 
I understand you, Bruce, but you have no right to try to censore my
proposals or exhorting me to get off the N-list with private
foul-mouthed messages.
 
Saludos,
Marcos

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