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AUXLANG  February 1998, Week 4

AUXLANG February 1998, Week 4

Subject:

Ease of Learning

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 22 Feb 1998 22:28:23 +0300

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>
>At 18:27 21/2/98, Kjell Rehnstr=F6m wrote:
>.......
>>The only
>>languages that people are learning voluntarily are the constructed
>>languages.
 
Ray Brown:
>NO, NO, NO, NO!!!
>
>I've been learning natlangs _VOLUNTARILY_ for well over 40 years.  I refuse
>to believe that I am unique among the human race.
 
Kjell R.:
None of us is unique in this case. But my point is not that no national
languages are taught voluntarily, my point is that planned languages are
next to never taught on a compulsory basis, but national languages mostly
are.
 
>I fancy the publishers of the "Teach Yourself" series would soon be out of
>business if thousands of people were not learning natlangs _voluntariliy_.
>The excellent foreign language lesons produced by the BBC surely show that
>there are people who actually want to learn foreign natlangs.
>
>Compared with the numbers _voluntarily_ learning foreign natlangs, those
>leaning conlangs are a mere drop in the ocean.
 
Unfortunately true. But the positive side of it is that the
constructed/artificial languages  have been spread quite by peoples' free
will, and I think this is a plus on their behalf.
 
I think Ray Brown wrote this:
>>>>What if the
>>>>East Asian economy recovers and continues to grow at a more modest rate =
--
>>>>as is likely to happen -- while the west continues its descent into soci=
al
>>>>disorder -- as is also likely to happen.  Who is going to need learning
>>>>whose language then, in 200 years or so?
 
To which Kjell Rehnstr=F6m replied:
>>Through good communications we are experiencing a real Great Migration tha=
t
>>makes the earlier Great Migration look like a joke. The risk is that it
>>will end in wars and what will happen afterwards, nobody knows.
 
Ray Brown:
>Well, if you're going to take such a pessimistic view then there's little
>point in bothering with any IAL, natlang or conlang.
>
>But during my lifetime I've seen my own country change from an essentially
>"white (Anglo-Saxon) Protestant" one into a pluralist, multi-ethnic one
>(which personally I find more exiting, vibrant & tolerant than the former).
>Although there've been some problems here & there, sometimes magnified out
>of proportion by the media, the change has for the most part been peaceful;
>and I'm pleased to say the extreme right still command little following.
>
>Just as I don't think I am unique among the human race, I do not think my
>own country is unique either.  Indeed, my two visits to post-apartheid
>South Africa confirm my hope for a better, saner world.
>
>Oh, yes, I know hitlerite dictators will arise from time to time as we see
>with Saddam Husein; but I am optimistic that the world has learnt from the
>Nazis the dangers of appeasement & that such horrors can be contained even
>if they are not easily eliminated.
>
>Despite all, I remain an optimist.
>
In the fifties there were many people here in Sweden who thought that the
cold war would change into a hot one and that we would be invaded like the
Baltic states. Luckily enough this has not happened yet, on the other hand
nobody thought that there would be a war in the Western part of the
Balcans. I remember hearing one radio programme around the year 1990 about
Bosnia-Hercegovina where Sarajevo was described as a very peaceful city
where people of all nationalities lived together. And obviously this could
not be anticipated although factories and universities all over Europe were
full of people from Yugoslavia and the languages there were studied etc.
 
Just because we don't know what the future will look like it perhaps is
especially important to work in favour of an international language that is
easy to understand and to use. I can well imagine that more than one such
planned language may be used. As it is indeed already.  This is good if it
is practical.
 
An international language is not only for those who can go to one of the
big countries to brush upp his language there - like all those who go to
the UK on combined holiday and language-studying trips.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kjell [log in to unmask]
Kjell Rehnstroem
Vaenortsgatan 87
S-752 64  UPPSALA
Suedia - Sweden

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