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AUXLANG  March 1998, Week 1

AUXLANG March 1998, Week 1

Subject:

Re: James' Project to Reform Novial (fwd)

From:

James Chandler <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:26:41 GMT

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Marcos skripted:
 
> >[w] may be known from E, but I don't want to postulate a knowledge of
> >E as a prerequisite for learning my IL.
>
> Well, aren't you doing that when taking vud, -(e)d, etc?
 
No more than I'm assuming a knowledge of S or P when I take TAMBEN for
E also.
 
> >Would you be able to tell me the maximum length of time into the future
> >something has to take place for it to be wrong to use "ir" in Sp.?
>
> It's more a matter of relative time than absolute time. 3 years can be
> a lot of time or just a bit of time. It depends on for what.
 
If you are saying here that it is not unheard of in Sp to use ir for
an event 3 years in the future, then I could not take very seriously
the objection that ir is used only for immediate futures.
 
> >Any accusative marker will be cumbersome and unnatural for most people.
>
> Then don't they use it. But let the rest of us have the opportunity of
> playing with word order if we feel the necesity.
 
As far as I can see, there never is a necessity to invert the SV order.
Espists allege: 1. Emphasis, 2. Translation from national languages.  But
for neither of these purposes is it necessary or even clear to invert the
normal word order in order to express the *sense* of the proposition.
Expresez vua penso, ma nur vua penso!  (Couturat)
 
> >But actually, the order is not SVO in Novial, it is SV.
>
> Well, I suppose Object has to go somewhere...
 
I am saying that that somewhere is not stipulated beforehand.  It doesn't
cause confusion to say LA ME AMA, MA NON LAN AMIKA.
 
James Chandler
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