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AUXLANG  April 1998, Week 3

AUXLANG April 1998, Week 3

Subject:

The Occidental Text

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:41:14 +0200

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (100 lines)

I have put in English words where I think it may be tricky for you to
understand the Occidental. I am doing this ad hoc as I have no Occidental
dictionary, so I am happy for all your corrections.
 
>"Novial
>Li majorite de nor (our) letores (isn't it _lectores_ or _lektores?)
>idistic ja es informat pri li apparition del project
>Novial de prof. Jespersen.Noi ancor ne ha publicat un recension pro (for,
>because of) preca (request, & prayer - In Swedish we have one word for
>both as well) de sr J. attender (to wait) til (+ li?) publication de su
>detal'at (is it an accent over the _a_ or is it an _i_?)  libre redactet
>in lingue angles. >Etsi (even though, even if, "and if") in li momente ti
>libre ancor ne atin'et (I see, _atinet_ shall have an accent over the _e_)
>nos (us),  noi  (we - a feature that I really like in occidental) tamen
>inserte in li present numero
>li relatent articules, anc pro que (even because) interim (in the
>meantime) sr. J. ja comensat propaganda por su
>systema per altri (other) publicationes. Quande noi va (will) har (have,
>is infinitive here) recivet (recieved)  li ovre (work, opus) angles  con su
>motivationes noi ancor un vez (once more) va presentar in li pagines de
>nor jurnal un response, ex li plum (pen) de senior de Wahl.
>In su public epistul (letter) in <<Mundo>> nr 209, sr J. confesset que il
>ha >apprendet (learned) ne solmen (not only, not just) de Zamenhof e
>>Couturat, ma (but) anc (also, as well) de de Wahl.
>Max grand li influentie de Occ es remarcabil in li derivation verbal de
>>Novial. Ci (here) nu (now) anc li thema verbal fini per un vocale, a quel
>(to which) es adjuntet (joined) p. ex. li solmen
>consonantic finales participial: -nt e -t. Sr J. ha compilat a un multicolori
>mosaic li derivation de Occ con su <<fonetical>> ortografie. On remarca
>misstylies (expressions of bad style? Mistakes in writing?) e
>anachronismes, quam (like, as)  <<sivilisatione (civilisation),
>sosialisatione
>(socialisation), vivasi nationalisatione (vivaci nationalisation), sent
>diferentiationes (cent differentiationes), i.e. paroles con aspect de cap de
><<Janus bifrons>> (spell it in French Bufraunse?), regardant in avan al
>>futur e in detra al passat...." E. Pigat.
>August-Sept. 1928 Cosmoglotta, p. 125-6,
>
>The above goes on for another page and a half. Here are some article
>titles right
>after this dealing with Novial. and, there is a letter from J. responding
>to de
>Wahl's first comments about Novial along with de Wahl's response.
>
>From Cosmoglotta August-Sept, 1928
>Novam e Novial. Du nov projectes de lingue international.
>Un Progress?
>Indiscret question a Senior Jespersen.
>
>From Cosmoglotta October, 1928
>Saxonic genitive de Jespersen per -n. by E. de Wahl. [This is the article that
>caused J. to write to the magazine.]
>
>From November, 1928.
>Infinitive per -r.
>Persona remarca. by de Wahl "In su nov libre <<Un lingue international>>
>editet in
>Angles, German e Dan, prof. O.  Jespersen scri inter altricos pri
>Occidental que
>per su systema de derivation it es li continuation de Neutral e specialmen
>Reform-Neutral de Rosenberger. Ti assertion es un fundamental e
>regrettabil erra,
>quel appare anc in li ovre de prof. Guerard <<A shorth history of the
>International Language Movement>> u (where) il (he) parla (speaks) pri
>(about) me quam (like, as) (+a) <<joint author of R. Neutral>>. On posse
>(can) dir (say) que just lu (the) contrari de to quo (that which) di
>(sais?) prof. >Jespersen es ver (true).
>Desde (since) li comensa de elaboration del Neutral yo refusat pluri
>(several) vezes (times) colaborar in ti (this) direction, basat ne sur
>scritiv (written?) internationalita (-alit'a?), ma aprioristic fonetic
>principles de >Schleyer, pro li inscientific metode de collectiv labor con
>votation. >Regrettabilmen prof. Jespersen sembla ne esser versat in li
>historie del
>mundlinguistica ante e parallel a Ido......"
>
>December, 1928
>Pri li finale -n in novial (Scrit in Novial) by J.
>Response. by de Wahl
>Precision de Novial [a short paragraph by J.P concluding with these 2
>sentences.
>"Sembla que it posse significar ambi coses! U es ci li clarita e li
>precision?"
 
It seems that it can mean both things. Where is here the clarity and the
precision?
 
Seams
>That's enough.
>Al l sue,
>Bob
 
With Swenglish explanations in (parenthesis) by Kjell R.
 
 
Kjell [log in to unmask]
Kjell Rehnstroem
Vaenortsgatan 87
S-752 64  UPPSALA
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