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AUXLANG  April 1998, Week 3

AUXLANG April 1998, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Novial (fwd)

From:

"Bruce R. Gilson" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 19 Apr 1998 17:18:39 -0700

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James Chandler <[log in to unmask]> skripted:
 
>Bruce Gilson scripted:
 
>> If you look at the set I gave, Solresol-Volapuek-Esperanto-Ido-Novial, except
>> for the last step, each step is smaller than the one before, an axample of the
>> asymptotism I've talked about. Because Ido was deliberately crafted as a
>> corrected Esperanto, that step is particularly small, as the step from N30
>> to GN is also. So Ido to Novial, therefore, is a somewhat bigger step than
>> Esperanto to Ido. But still much smaller than the earlier ones.
 
>I don't think it is a serious error, but I would say that I think Bruce's
>analysis is wrong for two reasons (both of which are common
>misunderstandings):
>1. The step from Esp to Ido is larger than people generally realize.  Hundreds
> of roots were analysed and subsequently changed.  The grammar was remoulded
> on sensible scientific principles.  The orthography and phonetics were both
> altered quite considerably.
>2, The step from Ido to Novial is smaller than people generally realize.
> It seems bigger, principally because the Esp endings were changed.  But I
> still view Novial as a dialect of Ido more than I view Ido as a dialect of
> Esperanto.
 
 
Actually, if this _is_ so, it strengthens my case for asymptotic development.
But I don't really see it that way, because Novial differs from Ido in so many
significant ways:
 
(1) parallel noun/pronoun endings, the first IAL I know of to do so,
(2) elimination of the Esperanto-style verb forms (where the vowel indicates
    tense) which even go FURTHER in Ido than in E-o, applying to the infinitive
    as well,
(3) treatment of the k/qu/t correlatives, much more rationally and more thorough
    than any previous language
 
just to start.
 
I'd like to add a response to some others who claimed that I've omitted a lot
of languages in my rather simplified list. I have, but most of them are lang-
uages that never went beyond their own authors. There might me a parallel
chain branching off from Volapuek: Volapuek-Neutral-Occidental-Interlingua,
which shows a similar asymptotism. But other than that, I think I'm right.
 
                                Bruce R. Gilson
                                email: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask]
                                IRC: EZ-as-pi
                                WWW: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3141
                                (for language stuff: add /langpage.html)

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