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AUXLANG  April 1998, Week 3

AUXLANG April 1998, Week 3

Subject:

translation Re: Cosmoglotta

From:

Jay Bowks <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:24:01 -0400

Content-Type:

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Hi, I'll try to translate Martinet's letter below into English
as it is of great interest to me and I forwarded it to
INTERLNG to share my excitement at reading it...
Thanks to Bob, and I will similarly devour any other
postings of his that he can contribute to the list.
Keep up the good work and research, Bob!
 
Now below my translation in-between the text...
 
Since,
Jay B.
 
>Hic un littera multissimemente interessante pro me
>jam que illo mentiona le origines del lingua bel e le
>relationes inter correspondentia del protagonistas
>del movimento naturalistic del interlinguas... le
>Interlingue / Occidental e le lingua bel e international
>de IALA, Interlingua!
>
>Io spera que Bob potera facer le altere documentos
>disponibile...
>
>Hic infra es un excerpto que ille inviava a Kjell per le
>lista Auxlang...
>
>Amicalmente,
>Jay B.
>
>From: Robert J. Petry <[log in to unmask]>
>Data: Saturday, April 11, 1998 3:09 PM
>Subjecto: Re: Cosmoglotta
>
>
>Kjell Rehnstr=F6m wrote:
>
>> Very interesting, Bob! You wrote:
>> >... In fact, there were issues apparantly done up to 1985,
>but
>> >I only have available those in 1962. & in the later issues,
>1950's are
>> >comments about IALA & Gode & Morris, etc. Interesting to say
>the least.
>> The latter seam to be most interesting as far as I am
>concerned.
>
>You might find this interesting then Kjell, & perhaps, if you
>think it
>profitable, maybe could translate into English for the list.
>This is a
>reprint of a letter from A. Martinet to Cosmoglotta. The letter
>is 4 may
>1957 to Sr. Ric. Berger.
>
>"Estimat senior,
 
 
Dear Sir:
 
>Yo lee, in un circulare quel on transmisset me, extractes de un
>raporte de
 
I read in a newsletter that someone sent me, excerpts of a
report
 
>quel vu es li autor e quel has esset publicat i CURRERO DEL
>MUNDO. Ti
 
of which you are the author, and which was published in the
CURRERO
DEL MUNDO
 
>raporte tende a far creder que existet inter Sr. Gode e me, un
>substantial
 
this report would lead one to believe that there existed between
Mr. Gode
and me, a substantial
 
>concordantie de opinion pri li forme quel it convene dar a
>Interlingua.
 
 
agreement of opinion about the form which it would be good to
give to Interlingua
 
>Nequo es plu inexact. Li oposition inter li <<lingue Martinet>>
>e li
 
Nothing is more inexact. The opposition between the "Martinet
Language"
 
><<lingue Gode>> totmen ne es un legende. Del 4 variantes del
>sondages de
 
and the "Gode Language" is not at all a legend. Of the 4
variants of
 
 
>1947, P representat li forme recomendat de Sr. Gode e K ti quel
>havet li
 
1947, "P" represented the form recommended by Mr. Gode and "K"
that which
 
>preferentie de Sra. Morris. Por mi parte, yo recomendat un
>solution
 
was preferred by Mrs. Morris. For my part, I recommended an
intermediary solution
 
>intermediari inter C (naturalisme schematic) e M (naturalisme
>modernisant)
 
between "C" (schematic naturalism) and "M" (modernized
naturalism)
 
>quam monstra li protocoll redactet de Sr. De Guesnet quel lvu
>cita in vor
 
which shows the (suggestions?) of Mr. De Guesnet, which you cite
in your
 
>raporte. Ti solution vell har esset, per su spiritu, mult plu
>proxim a
 
report. This solution would have been, by its spirit, very close
to
 
>Interlingue quam al hodial Interlingua: li preferentie por li
>formes romanic
 
Interlingua rather than today's Interlingua; the preference for
the
romance forms
 
>mesme, iste, ora e li finale facultative -e del adjectives, in
>contrast a
 
"mesme, iste, ora" and the adjectival facultative suffix "-e",
as
opposed to
 
>sam, ti, nu e -i de Occidental have null importantie in facie
de
>analogies
 
"sam, ti, nu" and the "-i" of Occidental have no importance in
the
face of the fundamental analogies
 
>fundamental de structura. Ples releer, por convicter vos pri
to,
>li
 
of its structure. Please, re-read, in order to convince yourself
about it,
 
>recension del Dictionarie e del Grammatica de Interlingua quel
>yo publicat
 
the critique of the Dictionary and the Grammar of Interlingua
that I
published
 
>in li revue WORD (vol. 8 pp 163-167). Por preventer steril
>controverses, it
 
in the magazine/review WORD (volume 8, pages 163-167). In
order to prevent sterile controversies,
 
>vell esser util publicar in quelcunc del du interlingues, ti
>recension in
>extenso.
 
it would be useful to publish in whichever of the two
interlanguages,
this critique/editorial in greater detail
 
 
>Yo es, Seniro etc..... sig. A. Martinet"
>
 
I am... Mr. etc.... signed. A Martinet.
 
>Then comes 3-4 pages of explanation of what caused the letter
to
>be sent,
>and a promise to publish Martinet's article from WORD.
>
>Enjoy,
>Bob
>

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