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AUXLANG April 1998, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Interlingua - Occidental

From:

"Robert J. Petry" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:54:16 -0700

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Kjell Rehnstr=F6m wrote:
 
> Bob, le facto que tu pote* leger**) occidental plus facilemente que nov=
ial,
> esque isto etiam significa que tu lege occidental plus facilemente que
> interlingua? Pote il esser le facto que tu ha volumines de un publicati=
on,
> que te interessa, e un simple vocabulario?
> _____
> *  pensa de _potentia, potente
> ** pensa de _lectura_, _lector_ le _g_ es un exemplo de assimilation to=
nic
> ante _t_ *legtura, legtor_ deveni _lectura_ _lector_
>
> Bob, the fact that you can* read** Occidental easier than Novial, does =
this
> also mean that you read Occidental easier than Interlingua? Can it be t=
he
> fact that you have volumes of a publication that interests you  and a
> simple vocabulary?
 
Kjell, before I answer, let me say that my personal experience may just b=
e
based on the fact I have in hand a voluminous amount of Occidental to rea=
d and
look at. My only experience with IALA Interlingua is what I have seen on =
the
web and the dictionary. And, the same with Novial, Ido, etc. I personally=
 am
not impressed nor interested in certain languages because they do not hit=
 me
right. Others folks may feel otherwise. Years ago I began to learn Espera=
nto,
but dropped it rapidly. At the time, as I have mentioned before I was stu=
dying
Spanish. I liked it much better than Esperanto, and frankly, thought it w=
as
easier to learn. But, I had a teacher for Spanish, and was self-learning
Esperanto.Actually, I do have several pages of Novial from the magazine
Novialiste I believe is the name. But still cannot comprehend it as easy =
as the
Occidental material I have at hand.
 
So, I have Occidental material that I can read a good deal of instantly. =
I can
read Novial and Interlingua but I have to do more mental translating effo=
rt
than with Occidental. Maybe it's just me. But, it is not the rules, etc. =
It is
the fact that I have fewer mental hoops to jump through to read and under=
stand
the Occidental material. I can read Interlingua, with a seeming bit more
difficulty, but I don't feel comfortable with Interlingua. I feel like I =
am
working harder to understand it than Occidental.
 
So, Novial, Ido, etc. are perfectly fine languages as far as I'm concerne=
d.
But, I'm looking for ease and speed of initial comprehension, so I can no=
t only
use potentially an auxiliary language, but also teach others to do so als=
o.
 
As far as RLR goes, I can easily read it but the method of learning is a =
little
different. Some have told me they can't read it at all. Well, I would be
surprised if they could. In RLR's case, some preparation is necessary bec=
ause
it is also a shorthand system. But, within a very short time anyone can l=
earn
it, and at least a hundred times faster than any other shorthand system I=
MO.
 
I can read both Occ. & Interlingua but like the first better as explained=
 
above. Here is a comparative example from the Cosmoglotta which I wanted =
an
excuse to post. See what you think after seeing the two. It is a business=
 
letter of about 5 or 6 short paragraphs. I'll just do the first two for n=
ow. If
interested I'll post the rest of the letter in a separate post.
 
INTERLINGUA
 
Estimate seniores,
Nos ha recipite vostre epistula del 12.4.57 e manda vos hic juncte le fac=
tura e
le congnoscimento del cargamento de butyro que vos nos ha facite le place=
r de
ordinar.
 
INTERLINGUE [Occidental]
 
Estimat seniores,
Noi ha recivet vor lettre del 12.4.57 e invia vos ei-junt li factura e li=
 
conossement del cargament de buttre quel vu benevolet commendar nos.
 
INTERLINGUA
 
Mitte nos, si il vos place, le summa de $1250. -- in un cheque super Nove=
 York,
in conformitate con le conditiones de nostre contracto.
 
INTERLINGUE [Occidental]
 
Ples misser nos li summa de $1250. in un chec sur New York, in conformita=
 con
li conditiones de nor contrate de compra.
 
There are four more paragraphs. Let me know if you want to see the rest o=
f the
letter.
 
So, don't know if this gives you the answer you want, but it's the best I=
 can
do at the moment.
 
Al l sue,
Bob

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