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AUXLANG  April 1998, Week 3

AUXLANG April 1998, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Novial

From:

"Donald J. HARLOW" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:37:37 -0700

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At 08:42 AM 4/18/98 -0700, mi mem skribis:
 
[It was early, and I was in a hurry to leave. Bruce or others may have
answered this already, but I'd like to redefine my own position a bit
before reading those possible answers -- backwater, if you will.]
 
>Je 02:24 atm 4/18/98 -0700, Bruce R. GILSON skribis:
>>
>>"Good enough" is the way _never_to_progress_.
>
>This is simply wrong.
 
Ummm. Actually, it isn't -- in principle. In fact -- now don't faint,
anybody -- I largely agree on this point with Bruce. In fact, I consider
the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" meme that appeared in the early
eighties to be one of the most pernicious ideas ever adopted by Western
civilization.
 
But see below for a caveat or two.
 
>If Alexander Graham BELL had waited on the cell
>phone, we would have no communications system today. There would be no
>Macintosh computer if the two Steves, working in their garage, hadn't at
>some point said: "Shucks, let's get this Apple I out to the marketplace"
>(then consisting of a couple of hundred acquaintances). And I'd be an only
>child today if Alexander FLEMING, some 70 years ago, hadn't said to
>himself: "I think I can market this _pennicilium notatum_ mold", but rather
>"Ah, let's wait on a thorough understanding of molecular biology before we
>force this stuff on the public."
>
"Good enough" is a reason to go with it now -- whatever needs fixing will
get fixed quickly enough, and whatever could be improved on will be
improved on quickly enough, once you have enough people looking for warts
in the product. Progress is stalled not by trying for perfection but by
keeping something away from those who could use it and fix it.
 
I would add that I sympathize with Bruce's viewpoint when you're talking
about a language. If the phone company releases a wall phone to the world,
and ten years later upgrades to a table phone, and ten years after that
upgrades to a cell phone, it's easy enough to replace the old product,
which only represents a few dollars expended a long time ago. A language
represents dozens or hundreds or even thousands of hours of time invested
in learning and using; once it's out there, with a user community, it is
almost impossible to change by fiat, even if you find something that you
consider wrong with it; as somebody once said, what is wrong is, by
definition, right. On the other hand, if you don't put it into use, it does
nobody at all any good -- except, of course, for those few who enjoy
playing around with it inside their little closed community.
 
>>This is not the way the world
>>works. Solresol was good enough for its inventor, but not for Schleyer. In
>its
>>turn, Volapuek was good enough for Schleyer, but not for Zamenhof; Esperanto
>>was good enough for Zamenhof, but not for Couturat; Ido was good enough for
>>Couturat, and even initially for Jespersen, but Jespersen decided he
could do
>>better. One difference between Jespersen and the others was that even he
>>realized his creation was NOT "good enough." It is clear from his book, "An
>>International Language," that he _expected_ that Novial would be improved
>upon:
>>"I ... cannot pretend in every detail to have hit upon the best solution."
>(p.
>>59) "Some of my suggestions may be accepted singly and worked into other
>>schemes." (ibid.) "I shall be happy if it is recognized that I have
>contributed
>>in some slight measure ... to the International Auxiliary Language of the
>>future." (p. 60)
>>
>But this is not what you (and many others) are doing; you're hanging in
>there until you get it "just right". Of course, it will never _be_ "just
>right", and the product will never go to market. In the examples you give,
>_everybody_ went to market -- even Jespersen.
>
>One of those nifty proverbs that Zamenhof collected: "La plejbono estas la
>malamiko de la bono."
>
_Good enough_ may indeed be the enemy of progress, as Bruce suggests; but
_perfect_ is at least as great an enemy. "Good enough" can be improved on;
"perfection" can never even be attained.
 
-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/
(English version: http://www.webcom.com/~donh/dona.html)

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