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CONLANG  September 1998, Week 4

CONLANG September 1998, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Proposal: Reduction...

From:

Gerald Koenig <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:48:10 -0700

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>
>JUSTIFICATION: NGL tends to produce long words, to counteract this, I'm
>proposing a systematic set of reductions in certain speach styles.  This

It is not at all clear to me why the initial compositions by jack and
stephen have been longer than english. A glance at the rootwords shows
them not to be significantly longer than their english counterparts.
I think we should get a clear idea why there has been an expansion in
syllable counts in certain compositions, before we start surgery on the
phonology. Stephen thinks it is the phonology, I would like to be shown
why. What is the contribution of circumlocution due to limited
vocabulary? Are derivational morphems inherently longer?
>
>
>RULES:
>
>Vouels: The most bulky and noticable part of a sylable is the vouel, this
>especially lengthens in CVVC sequences.  Vouel clusters are especially
>well suited to reduction since they will still always produce a
>pronouncable sylable.  I propose that clusters be simplified as follows:
...................
>       ia /i@/ ie /je/ ii /i:/ io /jo/ iu /ju/
............................

These changes would wreak hovoc with VTT contractions, miam, miem, mium,
which mean I was verbing, I am verbing, and I will be verbing.

miam==> [log in to unmask] For all practical purposes, mi@m is indistinguishable
from mium. It converts a past tense to a future one.
miem==> m/je/m. This puts a semivowel "y" next to a consonant "m". It's
a semi-violation of the phonology to my ears and actually is harder to
pronounce.
mium==>m/ju/m. Again, "myum" is harder to pronounce than mium.

>The reductions, in order of their precedence, are:
>       Assign stress
>       Reduce aa...uu to a:...u:, likewise with bb...zz to b:...z:
>       Delete "weak" vouels
>       Simplify consonants
>       Dypthongize vouels
>
>EXAMPLES: The following paragraph, taken from "Oxiziux Bokfejani":
>> Kajig, cike ta esrltirfe, tontaje fo bokfe.  Esrltirfem rl manom wi' > >
>bokfecito, & u' tiumac indhur ogig tam bokfe.  Kaov bokfe, rl man
>> suaze rl rafohinotom jeri & xujtu'ir toyal.  Pi'eas q aplruntos u'
>> n`zdu rl manom, & pi'eiac dasem inhr'olyasig.  U' iny`s hapxui',
>> rl man deur q aplruntos & se te tu'i intryalig rafoinotomad jeri.
>Would be pronounced:
>/kadZ@g gik:e ta sritirfe tontadZe: fo bokfe: sritirfe:m ol ,manom wi
>bokfetSi:to et u tjumatS ndewr ogig tam bokfe: kaov bokfe: ol ,man
>swaZe ol ,rafoxintom dZeri et SudZdu?ir tojal pi?&s ku @piruntos u
>naZdu ol ,manom et pi?ejatS dasem @n'ho?olyasig u? in'jas hapSuj?
>ol ,man dewr ku @piruntos et se te tu?i ntojalig rafoxintomad dZeri/
>

I would like to know the change in sylable count in this sample, but
don't feel able to do it. What is it?

Jerry
------------------------------------
NGL is not easy to construct well. Let's try again.

>
>Sincerely,
>       Jack Durst
>

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