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AUXLANG  September 1998, Week 5

AUXLANG September 1998, Week 5

Subject:

Re: Esperanto what for? (fwd)

From:

"Donald J. Harlow" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:45:23 -0700

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Je 10:17 atm 9/28/98 -0400, Ken CAVINESS skribis:
 
>Je 10:55 PM 27.09.98 BST, James Chandler skribis:
>
>>I would go as far as to say that Esp's spelling is in general acceptably
>>phonetic, and is at least _as_ phonetic as, say, Ido's.  But I could not in
>>good conscience go as far as Ken does and describe Esp's spelling as
>>"phonetic" (where what is presumably meant is "completely phonetic") or as
>>"one sound - one symbol", and this for two reasons: 1. the problem which to
>>my mind was never resolved of C=[ts];
>
>Ah.
>
>Well, people who know more about this than I have said that C=[ts] is _not_
>correct, but merely a first approximation to a sound which doesn't exist in
>English.  Perhaps we should get in the habit of writing C ~~ [ts].
>
>Now it might be possible to get into a big discussion on whether a sound is
>a sound or a combination of sounds (many examples from English vowels,
>termed "impure" by speakers of some other languages:  we consider them to
>be one sound, others hear more), but frankly I don't expect such a
>discussion to be particularly useful.
>
One more comment on 'c' vs [ts], this time an anecdote:
 
My friend Ionel, on one of his biennial, sometimes annual, pilgrimages back
to the old home turf (Transsylvania -- and you can imagine the Dracula
jokes he's had to put up with about that!), tried to teach his father some
English. The hang-up point, he says, occurred right here. Onet, pere (the
't,' is a t-cedilla) refused to accept that any reasonable language would
spell a single sound (he knew it was a single sound, because it was spelled
that way in his language as in his family name -- with the t-cedilla) with
two such disparate letters as 't' and 's' put together. (Ionel speaks six
languages -- last time I looked -- but I gather that his father is
linguistically naive.)
 
 
-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/
(English version: http://www.webcom.com/~donh/dona.html)

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