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AUXLANG  November 1998, Week 2

AUXLANG November 1998, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Glosa

From:

Paul O Bartlett <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:05:25 -0500

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On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Robin Gaskell wrote (excerpted):
 
>    True, were we to place the current _Glosa 6000_ dictionary before a UN
> official, and he were to check word meanings - by cross referencing from
> the front to the back - he might feel that such inconsistencies eliminated
> Glosa from the running, in the IAL Stakes.
 
    Together with the didactic materials, I suspect that this is true.
The "unprofessional" appearance and content of the existing Glosa
publications would probably leave a poor impression.
 
>    As soon as I make my first half-million, I will bankroll the reprinting
> of Glosa dictionaries with consistent spelling, and the trashing of all
> currently inconsistent Glosa inventry.
 
    Quite generous of you.  :-)
 
>     However, I suspect that the authors also allowed the syntax to 'float'
> a bit, much as they did with the spelling.  This was done with the
> deliberate intention of letting Glosa's syntax, like water running down a
> hillside, to find its own level.
 
    I take it that this may mean that actual usage was/is to resolve
some matters.  If so -- and this is not necessarily bad in itself --
then there may not yet have been a sufficient user base to accomplish
this.
 
>     The task I have set myself - especially with the insistence of Paul,
> other Auxlangers, and the African Glosa-pe - is to try to congeal the
> usages of Glosa's grammar into something that can be seen as having more
> regularity.
 
    Yes.
 
> Glosa's syntax has been in limbo long enough: it is time to formalise it
> into a 'teachable' system of grammar.
 
    I still think that Glosa ought to have some sort of laid-out
grammatical standard.  However, I have somewhat moderated my thinking
on the paedegogy of Glosa.  The "Mechanics of Glosa" approach is
legitimate as far as it goes -- it just doesn't go far enough.  A much
expanded "Mechanics" could demonstrate "practical" grammar and usage
without having to shove a grammar book into someone's hands.
 
>     This, of course is one of the reasons for setting up Glosalist Mailing
> List:
 
    Which seems not to have been any too active of late.  :-(
 
>       however, one pre-requisite for the discussion of an innate system of
> syntax
 
    I an not sure just what "an innate system of syntax" is.  Is this
related to "the natural way that people think"?
 
>                                   However, using a language without a
> grammarbook is something like holding your nose, closing your eyes, and
> jumping into the deep end of a pool when you can't swim: it calls upon the
> communicator to look inwards for innate survival skills.
 
    Not necessarily.  See my remarks above.  One might receive swimming
instruction in shallow water from a teacher by the do-after-me
approach, neither jumping blindly into deep water nor reading a
swimming manual.
 
>                                                            There is the
> niggling worry that all of this solidification process, from dream to final
> realisation, is taking too long, and that Glosa might be lost in the sands
> of history, if it fails to gain currency.
 
    This is a very real danger which may be almost upon Glosa already.
 
>                                            So, I guess the authors need to
> scrap inconsistent dictionaries, and reprint after serious editing;
 
    And if they cannot or will not do it, are they willing to let
someone else do it without claiming proprietary rights or copyright
infringement?
 
--
Paul                             <[log in to unmask]>
..........................................................
Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA
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