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AUXLANG November 1998, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Whew?

From:

Jay Bowks <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Jay Bowks <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:58:16 -0500

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Well, if it is any consolation to any
IAL enthusiast without many funds...
there is a new site www.interlingua.org
which is in the process of putting the
entire IED (Interlingua English Dictionary)
online. There are a "plethora" of online
materials at www.interlingua.com and
there are dictionaries in various natural
languages for Interlingua vocabulary.
One of these I've compiled. It is English
Interlingua and has thousands of terms.
A private email will get you a zipped up
file, and you can also get it in through
the web at:
http://adam.cheshire.net/~jjbowks/auxiling/abctable.html
Check it out...
and enjoy the beautiful international language, Interlingua.
Since,
Jay B.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Caviness <[log in to unmask]>
To: Multiple recipients of list AUXLANG <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Whew?
 
 
>Je 08:32 AM 08.11.98 -0700, vi skribis:
>
>>Ken Caviness wrote:
>>
>>> Je 08:26 PM 06.11.98 -0700, Robert J. Petry skribis:
>>>
>>> >Arrrrgggggghhhh?! Just finished over 500 pages of scanning today,
>>> >just so you folks will be able to download the full German-Occidenta=
l
>>> >Wo"rterbuch soon.
>>>
>>> Bona laboro, Amiko!
>>>
>>> >Oh, the effort we go to for the critics! and no
>>> >thanks. my, my, my. ;--)))
>>>
>>> You don't want thanks, Bob, you want money, right?!   ;-)
>>
>>Who said money was wrong? It is the love of money that is a problem. An=
d,
>>Occidentalists tried to do it without money before and they caused a st=
ir,
>>but could not keep up with those who had it. This time that won't happe=
n.
>>
>>> Seriously, this W=F6rterbuch will join the things you have put online
which
>>> one has to register and pay for, ^cu ne?
>>
>>That's right. It will cost money. Surprisingly, those who pay for what
they
>>want don't argue, fuss, and belly ache like those who want everything f=
ree
>>do. Plus, those who pay use it, those who don't vary in using it.
>>
>>Those who are trying to promote their lins on value of the language alo=
ne
>>will get virtually nowhere. Tell Bill Gates to give you his OS free.
>>
>>Please send me all your books in Esperanto free. I guess my teach yours=
elf
>>book and dictionary in Esp. was free. Some folks have their priorites a=
ll
>>wrong. They have been on the dole all their lives, and think it's wrong=
 to
>>pay for what has real value. I guess it really bothers you that someone=
 is
>>saying, hey, if you want this, you gotta give some of your money for it.
>
>No smiley there, but I presume that friendly sarcasm was intended.  In c=
ase
>there actually was a question, I will answer:  No, "Teach Yourself
>Esperanto" and other textbooks which are available are not free.  There =
are
>of course many different published Esperanto textbooks, for TYE you'll h=
ave
>to take up the question with TY Books, NTC Publishing Group, 4255 West
>Touhy Avenue, Lincolnwood (Chicago), Illinois 60646.  ;-)
>
>Those interested in learning Esperanto can order many other books and ta=
pes
>from ELNA -- see their website:
>
>                     <http://www.esperanto-usa.org/>
>
>BUT there is _also_ an immense amount of online material available for
>those who have an interest in learning Esperanto.  I'm happy to be able =
to
>report from personal experience that it is possible to learn Esperanto
>online on a very limited budget.  The willingness of so many Esperantist=
s
>to go to so much effort to put so much material online gives me confiden=
ce
>in the future of the Esperanto language and movement.
>
>>And, thanks for the encouragement above about the scanning. Boy, is it
>>tedious. But, well worth the effort after done.
>
>I understand that tedium.  To help the Novial group I scanned in many pa=
ges
>of Jespersen's "Novial Lexike", and more recently scanned in the lessons=
 of
>the online Volap=FCk course which are now at Thomas Leigh's site, and am=
 now
>working with others in getting Sprague's "Hand-Book of Volap=FCk" online=
 and
>in HTML format -- currently in the post-scan / editing stage.
>
>These resources are of immense historical interest to IAL-enthusiasts.  =
I
>would also encourage you to eventually make more Occidental material
>available.
>
>>By the way, which Esperanto magazines are free so I can order a dozen t=
o
be
>>sent to me via international mail at their expense?
>
>There are a number of free Esperanto online magazines / newsletters.  Of
>course printed magazines you can get the "old-fashioned" way, place the
>order, pay your money, wait for the mail, ...  ;-)  But I think you knew
this.
>
>>By the way, the Worterbuch is 500 pages. Send me your free 500 page
Esperanto
>>book.
>
>Nice try, Bob.  You can already access free Esperanto dictionaries onlin=
e.
>
>>And, a new one for free at least every month. See how long it takes you
>>to quit that real fast.
>
>You have explained your game plan, and I think I understand it.  The ide=
a
>that people value what they have to pay for sounds like good strategy.
>We'll see how it works out in practice.  But I guess I still don't belie=
ve
>that your marketing plan can deliver the results you so optimistically
>claim.  I'd be delighted to see Occidental (or any planligvo!) explode i=
nto
>prominence at the rate you envision, but looking at over a hundred years=
 of
>conlang history indicate that it's not that easy.
>
>But Esperanto continues to make headway.  Vivu la internacian lingvon!  =
;-)
>
>>I'll be glad when you act on the light you see, instead of quibbling to
hang
>>on to a19th cent. relic. ;--)))
>
>Not quibbling, mia amiko.  It's sizing up the candidates and promoting t=
he
>one which seems to have the best chance of success.  I'm sorry that you
>feel the need to call names -- even names followed by smileys.
>
>Esperante salutas
>
>Ken
>
>  *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
>  | Ken CAVINESS           Physics at Southern Adventist University |
>  | [log in to unmask]             ESPERANTO =3D Lingvo internacia |
>  | http://southern.edu/~caviness/     E-o/English/Fran=E7ais/Deutsch |
>  *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
>

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