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CONLANG  November 1998, Week 3

CONLANG November 1998, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Another Orthography Question

From:

Frank George Valoczy <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:21:39 -0800

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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> At 18:43 18/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Okay.  I'm back active after a long time.
> >
> >I've begun wotking on a new language, whose Anglicised name is Quryak.
> >I'm developing the phonology tright now, but I need some help.  I want to
> >know what are the IPA/SAMPA for (IE, how to show in ASCII)
> >
> >nasalised vowels
>
>         I think using a tilda ~ before or after the vowel is the best way to
> do it (just choose a place and keep it).

That could work

>
> >o-slash (computer, how?)
>
>         On my old computer, the 0 (zero) was just like that. But I think it
> disappeared. If you make an HTML file, I think such a character already
> exists (I saw it but don't use it).
>

I know how to do it in HTML; my problem is for my e-mail.

> >inverted lower case e (again, how to show in ascii)(NOT schwa!)
>
>         It's not the schwa? So what is it?
>

IPA number 397...called "reversed E"

> >glottal stop
>
>         Generally ' is used.
>
> >ejective k
> >ejective t
> >ejective p
>
>         What I see is generally k', t' and p'. But the apostroph has so many
> uses that it can be the worst solution.

Yeah I figured that...is there IPA for it?

>
> >unreleased k
> >unreleased t
> >unreleased p
> >clicks: Zulu x
> >click: Zulu q
>
>         A question related to clicks: what are they? (I mean, how are they
> pronounced? Nobody has ever been able to explain me exactly what clicks were).
>

You know when you make the "cluck" sound, with your tongue?  That's Zulu
q.  The other one, I can't describe how to do it, I just know (learned
from a native speaker of Xhosa)

>
>         That's an idea: try using numbers to modify the letters (it seems
> odd but after a while we can get used to everything). The main advantage is
> that you have 9 symbols (I don't count 0 (zero) that is to much like O).
> Another idea: use capitalized and small letters with different values (like
> in Klingon). Even if your system won't be universal, just prevent before
> that you're using a special system (it's just two or three lines to add).

That's an idea.  I've been toying with kk tt pp for ejectives; but I
can't figure the unreleased out.  For glottal stop I'll probably use 7

Thanks for your suggestions.

-------ferke
Ferenc Gy. Valoczy

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