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AUXLANG  November 1998, Week 4

AUXLANG November 1998, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Relexification e parolas recente (era Re: Ia/Occ conflict)

From:

Charles <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:41:45 +0000

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Mike wrote:
 
> >still, I wish the grammar of Ia were more restrictive,
> >defining where the bl**dy unmarked adjectives go.
>
> Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "unmarked adjectives."
 
It could have been decided that adjectives follow the
noun, or precede; or there could have been a mandatory
distinction made by an adjectival ending, or something.
It is not normal in any non-case-marked-to-the-hilt
language to allow such liberties ... I hope!
I don't like puzzling it out by omnipotent "context".
More regular Ido/Esperanto win heavily on this point.
 
> I think there's at least one Interlingua dictionary with
> more than 100,000 entries. I'm not sure if it's out yet,
> but soon! The larger dictionaries also have large numbers
> of word combinations, in addition to actual entries. IED
> says that there are potentially several hundred thousand
> international words. Enough?
 
Um, both too many and not enough. These are not international
in the sense of being at-sight-recognizable to over 50%
of us Americans, let alone other non-European non-Americans.
It only really works well in Europe and Latin America,
judging by raw numbers; granted, no other root stock has
as much potential; but I observe it isn't quite "global".
 
Maybe it's good enough, I don't know. Esperanto uses a
smaller but less at-sight-etc vocab and that works too.
While you guys do the pragmatic thing, I hope others
are off designing a better next-generation instrument.
I imagine it to be culture-neutral, minimal, powerful,
computer-understandable, and mathematically well-defined.
And do my laundry.
 
> >Nobody has tried it recently, but I think maybe
> >a new class-hierarchical language is the Way;
> >a dictionary would amount to a small encyclopedia ...
> >and it would be easy to memorize and use the top-level
> >words, which would be the shortest and most common.
> >I imagine the WordNet noun hierarchy, relexed.
>
> You know, I think that's a great idea! Bravo, Charles! People
> could learn as much as they felt comfortable with, starting with
> the easiest words. The IED might give you some useful ideas.
> It has a similar structure, if I'm understanding your concept
> correctly.
 
People gave up on that idea in a previous century, but
playing around with WordNet (English and Euro versions)
might tempt one to re-examine it. Not sure I understand
"the concept" correctly, either. Still exploring.

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