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CONLANG  December 1998, Week 5

CONLANG December 1998, Week 5

Subject:

Re: meeting of minds

From:

Kristian Jensen <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:08:32 +0100

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Hey Daniel,

Thanks for the interest you have shown in Boreanesians. I apologize
that I haven't replied sooner, but like I said, I was away for the
holidays.

Daniel Baisden wrote (some time ago):

>-Kristian-B
>You wrote that in many ways you feel Boreanesian. That has come
>across so clearly before you wrote about. I share that feeling,
>though I have no doubt it is nowhere nearly as strongly as you, and
>others in similar cirmstance feel it. I do not feel personally so
>much that my ethical responsibilities in life lie toward my native
>land, or its government and institutions, so much as it does toward
>humanity in general. I feel what I do, or do not, has impact, and
>that impact knows no borders, however small a one it may be.
>Wouldnt it be interesting to build a nation, a nation without a
>homeland, of people who are generally sick of, or who find useless,
>nationalism in general. There could be one or a thousand languages,
>flags, governments, united in one name, toward ...how many
>principles. Just a Christmas Eve thought, needed to get out....

>Sincerely, Daniel Baisden
>
Its a pleasant thought, but its perhaps a bit far-fetched. Maybe if
all third cultured people like me got together and moved to a
terraformed Mars, then we might have just that - a nation with
third-cultured nationals without a homeland and without a sense of
nationalism. But over time, generations later, descendants of these
third cultured nationals would feel a sense of being Martian and
would have a sense of nationalism towards being a Martian. I'm
afraid such a nation would never exist permanently. Its just not
natural in the long run.

On the other hand, the world would be an incredibly boring place if
we didn't have our cultural differences. Ironically - even if they
DO cause conflicts.

Daniel Baisden also wrote:
>Much thanks to Patrick Dunn for bringing the actuality and concept
>of micronations to our eyes. I.E., check out www.novaroma.org . It
>is an idea of direct consequence to conlangers. That is, what if
>the culture of your languages origin, became at least an internet
>entity, or even actually acquired some form of perhaps subsidiary
>territory. Boreanesia may come to have redblooded citizens yet! Eh,
>Kristian?

Perhaps, but I have always view Boreanesians as having a culture
that evolved over at least 12,000 years. They are also supposedly
descendants of people that preceded the Jomon-culture in Japan over
10,000 years ago but migrated to Boreanesia when the global
sea-levels were much lower than today. It is not clear whether these
ARE in fact, direct descendants of the Jomon people or that the
Boreanesians were forced to migrate to Boreanesia by the Jomons
themselves. Like the Ainus, they have been viewed as
"proto-caucasoid" - i.e. remnants of humans before the "racial"
split between Caucasians and Orientals about 50,000 years ago. They
have also been called "caucasitoid" because of their pygmy-like
stature. I guess this is a reflection of myself as being rather
short and a hybrid between a Caucasian Dane and an Oriental
Filipina.

In any case, if Boreanesians really exist, they would have to exist
in a parallel world to ours that would allow for a piece of
Gondwanaland to exist in the Northern Pacific. One could say that,
as a Boreanesian, I exist in the wrong parallel universe because
Boreanesia doesn't exist in this universe.

Regards,
-Kristian- 8-)

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