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CONLANG  April 1999, Week 4

CONLANG April 1999, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Translating Cortazar (WAS: Translating from a conlang into aconlang)

From:

Nik Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:34:26 -0400

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I'll give this a try.


W-ifla'v p-lasya'-na'
G6-theme G7-tapestry-BEN

Launi'-ta'n-va'    na-kinasga'-z lis    du=3Dnadu=3Dnali,    na-ganu'l-az
to.be-3PRatAbs-HAB G2-leader-DAT merely 6-12-8,          G2-enemy-DAT
If need be, "leader" could be specified as "general" by a modifier like
"of the army" or "in war", but context should make it clear.=20
du-nadu-nali is 6 twelves and 8 (duodecimal system)

kas=3Dnadu=3Dsakya.  Su-saga'-ta's-ki'    ku  wafa'-ta's-ki wa-tladda'-li=
'=20
3-12-144.       AP-say-3SRatAbs-Inch and cry-3SRatAbs-Inc G6-evil-INSTR
Rounded off to the nearest 1728 (12^3).  Blaspheme =3D say evil;
instrumental is the case of the ex-absolutive in the antipassive
construction.

na-kinasga' pi-zu-sani'-ma'-v.   Nan-af  su-kaltina'-ta's
G2-leader   G7-DIM-home-his-LOC. Two-GEN AP-write-3SRatAbs
Genetive numbers are the normal way of forming ordinals, "second" =3D
"also"

pi-kisagga'-li'       lu-gwatya'-l-ki         kif-da'va-i-l
G7-proclamation-INSTR CAUS-fall-3SIrrAbs-Inch G4P-dove-PL-ERG
=20
pi-pati-zu-sani'-ba' na-ganu'l-a'q-ba'. Zaba'-ta'n-ki'   sakya=3Ddu=3Dnad=
u
G7-COLL-DIM-home-ILL G2-enemy-GEN-ILL.  Go-3PRatAbs-Inch 144-6-12
A collection of tents is a camp.  Sakya-du-nadu is a rounded-off number

na-kinasga'-s. Nan-af  pi-nangadya'la' du-vasi'-ta's       na-kinasga',
G2-leader-ALL. Two-GEN G7-fight        easily-win-3SRatAbs G2-leader,

ku  n-i'sfu'na-s nan nap-pati-taki'.  Kas waf-laza'-i', ku na-ganu'l-a'z
and G2-(s)he-ALL two G2P-COLL-person. 3   G6P-day-PL,  and G2-enemy-DAT
"And two groups-of-people to him"

lis    du=3Dnadu=3Dnali, ku  na-kinasga'-z kas=3Dnadu=3Dsakya. Nan-af
merely 6-12-8,       and G2-leader-DAT 3-12-144.       two-GEN

su-kaltina'-ta's  na-kinasga' pi-kisagga'-li'       pi-kla'-li,   ku
AP-write-3SRatAbs G2-leader   G7-proclamation-INSTR G7-new-INSTR, and

du=3Dnadu=3Dtyaf n-i'sfu'na-s. Ladu'-ta's-ki        lis    ta  na-ganu'l,
6-12-7       G2-(s)he-ALL. Remain-3SRatAbs-Inch merely one G2-enemy,

zavi'n-ta's-ki         nat-tai-kinasga'-i-l,     ta'l-tan-ki
surround-3SRatAbs-Inch G2P-person-leader-PL-ERG, wait-3PRatAbso-Inch
tai-kinasga' is a "person associated with the Leader".  The tai-X
construction tends to be more common than "[specific noun] of the X"

pi-syanassa'-u'n. Faki'-l-nu'      pi-gasyu'. Fil zaba'-ta's-nu'
G7-silence-COMM.  Go-3SIrrAbs-Perf G7-night.  Not go-3SRatAbs-Perf

na-ganu'l na-kinasga'-s. Su-saga'-ta's-ki'    ku  wafa'-ta's-ki=20
G2-enemy  G2-leader-ALL. AP-say-3SRatAbs-Inch and cry-3SRatAbs-Inch

wa-tladda'-li' na-kinasga' pi-zu-sani'-ma'-v.   Su-niika's-ta's-ki
G6-evil-INSTR  G2-leader   G7-DIM-home-his-LOC. AP-draw-3SIrrAbs-Inch
niik=E1s actually refers to "getting ready"

pi-vamma'-u'n    wa-vyana'si'-v na-ganu'l p-waftu'-ma'-li'   ku
G7-slowness-COMM G6-dawn-Loc    G2-enemy  G7-sword-his-INSTR and

Technically, wavyan=E1s=ED refers to Odinsdawn.  There are two suns, Odin
and Frigga (the planets and suns were named with a Nordic mythology
motiff), Odin is the main sun, the sun around which Terra Nova orbits.=20
Wazlap=ED is used for Friggasdawn

zaba'-ta's-ki    pi-zu-sani'-s   na-kinasga'-f-sa.  Launi'-ta's-tu'
go-3SRatAbs-Inch G7-DIM-home-ALL G2-leader-GEN-ALL. Be.in-3SRatAbs-Inc

ku  s-lu-yawi'n-ta's.     Sa-ta'-l-la'           pi-pati-na-naga'dya'
and AP-CAUS-die-3SRatAbs. VERB-one-3SIrrAbs-CESS G7-COLL-one.who-fight
I'm assuming that "lo mira" is a euphemism of "he kills him"; "they stop
being one", that is, they dissolve

na-kinasga'-f. Launi'-l-tu'         wa-kadi'.
G2-leader-GEN. Be.in-3SIrrAbs-Incep G6-sun.
"The sun enters"

--=20
"It's bad manners to talk about ropes in the house of a man whose father
was hanged." - Irish proverb
http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files
http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html
ICQ: 18656696
AIM Screen-name: NikTailor

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