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AUXLANG  May 1999, Week 3

AUXLANG May 1999, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Quel es do li spi'ritu de Occidental!

From:

"Robert J. Petry" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 13 May 1999 23:31:52 -0700

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Ken Caviness wrote:
 
> [kut]
>
> Once we clear up this matter of the definition of "Inter-language" (if the
> term indeed has an explainable semantic content), we can see which of the
> possibilities most closely fit the term, i.e., whether (a) [your choice!]
> Occidental is the only (!) Inter-language, (b) Occidental is not an
> Inter-language at all, or (c) Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental,
> Novial, kaj tiel plu are all Inter-languages.
 
Ken,
Some things are best "experienced" with the "inner light" of "self-discovery". So,
considering this is a list of people with experience in the IAL field, and with
certain experiences and preferences under their belt, it would not be as effective
for me to give an abc answer. For, the end result will be, even if everyone would
agree together on my definition, that's great Bob, but that is just the way you
see it....
 
However, if in a reasonably short time, it finally dawns on one to all on the list
what is being implied, voila', then it won't be, that's just your idea Bob.
 
If, for a moment, everyone agrees that, well, let Bob have his "fun", but we will
consider thinking about his suggestion, then maybe something interesting might pop
out. And, while this is going on, I would ask each person on the list to
"meditate" on a few points and see where it leads them.
 
1. IAL's have been developed for what practical reason?
2. All IAL's [except one, give me some patience and slack here] are EXTRAnational,
and are used AS [hopefully] an international auxiliary language.
3. All languages of this kind so far still on the table as present possibilities,
cannot be used without a "national" going outside his/her mother tongue to learn
the EXTRAnational IAL, except for Occidental [be patient].
4. Those "nationals" who go OUTSIDE their languages to learn the EXTRAnational IAL
can then communicate with each other. And the same is true of  RLR, for the same
reason, it is an EXTRAnational language. [Just because a language draws on
"international" words for their vocabulary, does not of and by themselves make
then an INTER language. Without answering yet, let me ask you Why would that be?
Why would a language using 'international' words not be classed as an
INTERnational language? Think about it, for it is a clue. As an example, Word
Speedwords is built upon international words, but it is not an INTERnational
language, it is an international, or better, an EXTRAnational language. Why, if it
is built upon international words just like Esperanto, Ido, Novial, etc. including
ILa are? How could that be, and why? Even further, why is it that an INTERnational
language can use words like "developation" which is not in any of its source
languages, and be called an INTERlanguage?
5. Now, those same "nationals" without going outside their language, can read and
understand Occidental at first sight. [obviously not everyone, but multiple
millions more than can read another such language they have gone outside their
language to learn, i.e. 2,000,000?]
6. Those who decide to give it a try, can begin writing, speaking and using
Occidental also immediately, and from multiple experiences over time, can become
fluent in Occidental in under 30 hours, usually over a weekend with someone to
practice with.
7. The reason, [yeah, I know some of you say this can't be done, but it has been,
and still is being done.] this is so is because Occidental is an INTER language.
 
8. The answers to the above questions are clues to what makes Occidental
different, and the only IAL at present that has this unique difference.
9. If you get the answers, which help lead to the "insight" to what I am saying
about Occidental, then it will be a "bombshell" of a "revelation". That's the best
I can do for right now, or I will spoil the impact I hope some of you have.
 
Cordialmen,
Bob, x+O~
 
P.S. Also, in case anyone doesn't know yet, look up the meaning of the prefix
INTER-.

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