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CONLANG  June 1999, Week 4

CONLANG June 1999, Week 4

Subject:

Re: vrindo (was "Re: CHAT Re: Can't stop agulunating, HELP!")

From:

Joshua Shinavier <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Joshua Shinavier <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:07:14 +0200

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Joe Mondello wrote:
> There reached a point where i got very bored with the oh-so-pleasing-to-m=
e=20
> phonology and grammar of elv nedm/elV nEdM/aleph nedma/nedm=F3rsk (all th=
e same=20
> language) so when creating the language I use for my journal, Nzva, i dec=
ided=20
> that I didn't want to become overly attached to it since it was (in my=20
> frustrated mind) *just* a language, soI put every possible feature I disl=
iked=20
> (long words, almost isolating grammar, heavy derivation) and chose absolu=
tely=20
> disgusting-sounding words for the very common roots, but as i grew to enj=
oy=20
> the language I decided to change it to something more pleasing, e.g.

Ah, a love/hate relationship :)

>=20
> Nzva=09=09=09English=09=09=09=09=09Changed To
>=20
> cha=09=09=09I=09=09=09=09=09=09=09
> sa
> snodra=09=09hope=09=09=09=09=09=09sa=F0a
> kraj=09=09=09speak=09=09=09=09=09=09sraj
> kram=09=09=09say=09=09=09=09=09=09sram
> kramz=09=09=09word=09=09=09=09=09=09sraz
> krajez=09=09sentence=09=09=09=09=09srayez
> roks=09=09=09see=09=09=09=09=09=09raws
> sluushaat=09happen=09=09=09=09=09susha
> post=09=09=09time=09=09=09=09=09=09past
> gayny=09=09=09think=09=09=09=09=09=09haya
> guuluchy=09=09learn=09=09=09=09=09=09gazy
> bosigp=09=09night=09=09=09=09=09=09baws,=20
bos
> raagyulis=09affect=09=09=09=09=09rayulis
> fajun=09=09=09number=09=09=09=09=09oda

We seem to have a similar sense of beauty and ugliness, then -- the second
column sounds ten times better than the first to me.

=20
> My main problem now is that I like fricatives so much that to me sentence=
s=20
> are scarcely utterable, e.g.
> =F0y'x vzis sas xivjy asyj
> =F0y'x    vzis      sas    xivjyz       asyj
> you'-be obviously I-GEN  chemical-PLU use-about.to
>=20
> quite a tongue twister for me, but if I could hear it out loud I am sure =
i=20
> would like the sound.

I've had that urge before, to "fricatize" the language, giving a soft Frenc=
h
sound, but decided to concentrate the fricatization on specific words which
that sound seems most appropriate for -- enhancing the general chamaeleon
quality of the language -- passages of text about different subjects / writ=
ten
in different styles / having different general moods to them usually each h=
ave
a distinct phonetic character, e.g. lots of a's and k's and short vowels fo=
r
a violent conversation, l's and nasals and voiced fricatives and lots of lo=
ng
vowels for a more peaceful one.

Josh

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