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CONLANG July 1999, Week 2

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Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 12/07/99 03:26:39  , Nicole a =E9crit :

> >OK, to respond to my own post, I may have come up with a solution to my
>  >problem, tell me if this sounds normal/possible.  (The problem was, that
>  >I liked have all those cases, but it just got to be a pain).  Would it
>  >sound possible for a language with a very extensive case system to have
>  >some but not all cases change into adpositions, which required a case
>  >all their own?  Say, for instance, all my local cases were to detach
>  >from the noun and become postpositions (of course, in this case, my
>  >prepositional case would be postpositional...but anyway), and when a
>  >noun was used with a postposition it required a postpositional case,
>  >which had zero ending?

well, i'm not as quick as Henry and Jennifer
so i didn't understand this yet.
any example ? let's say your language is a rare conlang
so it's not an ergative one.
NOM, ACC =3D nominative, accusative cases
ONTO =3D ontosubstatillocative case
POST =3D postpositional case

(i)(a) is it like :
NOM-i put ACC-glass ONTO-table
NOM-i put ACC-glass POST-table onto

where do you put the adjective to "table" ?

(i)(b) or is it like :
i-NOM put glass-ACC table-ONTO
i-NOM put glass-ACC table-POST onto

but then if POST is -0 i can't see the difference
except if you put the adjective somewhere
after "table".

------------------------------------------------ ;-) line
(ii) or is it englishish like :
i put glass onto table =3D i put glass table onto

(iii) or is it germanisch? like :
NOM-i put ACC-glass onto ACC?/DAT?-table
NOM-i put ACC-glass (onto) ACC?/DAT?-table onto

(iv) or frenchish like :
jm=E9lv=E8rsurlatab'ok=E9 ?

(v) or SE-asian like :
me put glass top table

(vi) or dutch like :
i put er-daar glass on table er-on daar.

mathias

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