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AUXLANG  September 1999, Week 5

AUXLANG September 1999, Week 5

Subject:

Re: common vocabulary

From:

Charles <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:39:41 -0700

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Chris Burd wrote:
 
> Read the intro to the IED at http://www.interlingua.org . It's heavy
> going, but if you can fully digest it, you'll have a pretty good sense
> of what exactly IALA did.
 
> These are concerns for the lexicographers, not ordinary users,
> but, yeah, I think IALA did a pretty good job.
 
> Second, it's an open algorithm, so dozens if
> not hundreds of new roots tumble into the lexicon every year,
> whethor or not anyone writes them down.
 
> Anyone can register new vocabulary, if they have the requisite
> knowledge of the methodology.
 
This is the main point I want to address, whether Interlingua
is based on a true algorithm, or any scientific method.
If not, it is based only on lies ... anyway, "inconsistencies".
Referring to the web pages cited, I extracted the relevant parts
below; line breaks indicate cuts, often-big:
 
*** quotes from here down are from www.interlingua.org ***
 
> The purpose of the Dictionary is to furnish a scientifically
> sound vocabulary for the auxiliary language
>
> The objective methods used in its compilation
> should make it a reference work of value
>
> They may be regarded as variants of the one essential
> international language which is latent in the living languages.
>
> The most urgent practical problem in the field of interlinguistics
> is to build up a basic stock of language material which all
> interlinguists can accept as authentic. The Interlingua-English
> Dictionary offers such authentic material.
>
> And the task of the practical interlinguist turns out to be the
> selection and arrangement of international words and subsequently
> their expansion into a fully developed language
 
Objectivity and science are claimed.
"The International Language" already exists.
But a dictionary is urgently needed,
to provide *authentic* material to all interlinguists.
And it is this lexicographer (Gode) who will
"expand" upon it to make the Interlingua.
 
> THEORY AND PRINCIPLES
>
> There is no one language that stands as far above all others in regard
> to the bulk of its contributions to the international vocabulary as does
> English in regard to its ability to assimilate foreign words.
>
> Taken as a group and viewed as joint executors of the Latin heritage
> and hence as representing most fully the Neo-Latin source of most of
> the international technical vocabulary, the Romance languages are
> the most potent center of radiation of international words.
 
Basically, Latin roots that made it into English are selected.
 
> The determination of what words are to be regarded as part of the
> international vocabulary is one thing; the determination of the
> forms under which they are to be listed is another.
>
> Their forms must be "internationalized," that is, be normalized or
> standardized on the basis of the variants under which they occur
> in the national languages. The resulting prototypes are neither
> English nor German, not Latin or Greek,
>
> The process of viewing together the variant forms of international words
> in order to arrive at normalized, or standardized, prototypes cannot comply
> with a verifiable methodology applicable to ever new cases, unless ...
 
The prototypes are necessary, but are not English or Latin,
and *cannot* comply with a verifiable methodology.
 
> The Romance languages do have such a common basis in Latin.
>
> The best restricted sphere of languages in which to carry out a systematic
> collection of international words is consequently a combination of English
> and the Romance languages.
 
Now it's Anglo-NEO-Latin.
 
> The language of science and technology is the modern international language
> or interlingua. It is not, strictly speaking, a complete language
 
Now it's scientific terms ala Linnaeus.
And it is *not* a complete language.
 
> This group is the Anglo-Romance group of languages with German and
> Russian as potential contributors.
 
Add "potentially" German or Russian, just in case.
But we're still just talking theory. To be continued ...

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