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AUXLANG November 1999, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Interlingua - Asian "version"

From:

"Donald J. Harlow" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:31:50 -0800

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Je 01:23 ptm 11/10/99 -0800, Leo J. MOSER skribis
 
>On         Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:16:51 -0800, Donald J. HARLOW wrote:
>
> > Je 8 nov 99, je 23:11, Leo J. Moser skribis:
> >
> > > > Pei writes: "By way of demonstration, he offers the following
> > > passage..."
> > > > Since the last person referred to in the text is Gode, presumably=
 the
> > > "he" refers to the good Doctor. Cf. the work you mention, pp. 171-172.
> > >
> > > Do we have any evidence that Gode did this example
> > > and not Pei?
>
> > Depends on what you want for evidence. Pei's reference to "he" in
> > a passage about Gode is good enough for me. If you need more
> > than that, you'll have to call in a linguistic forensics expert.
> >  -- Don HARLOW
>
>Re-reading Pei is IMO of no help.
 
Depends on what you want. Again, Pei pretty specifically attributes the=20
passage in question to Gode -- and I see no reason to assume that he was=20
fibbing about this.
 
>Actually, I was hoping that someone who knew about the history
>of Interlingua would be able to cite some work where Gode
>presented some such "alternative Interlinguas" and talked
>about them. If no citation exists, I'd wonder where Pei got
>this, and tend to assume it was his own; yet it seems rather
>specific a thing just to invent and put in the mouth of someone
>else.
>
>There were (really) alternative versions of Interlingua
>prepared and circulated for comment in-re the degree of
>'naturalness' to be sought. These are, I believe, public
>record. The Pei "mata-hari" example is (as far as I can
>detect thus far) only in his (Pei's) book.
 
To find the original, you'd probably have to go back through Gode's private=
=20
correspondence (it could easily have been created to answer a question of=20
Pei's during the writing of his book). At best, it might have appeared in=20
an Interlingua bulletin of the period, of which no examples survive, or=20
perhaps one or two examples are to be found in the archives of the (now=20
defunct) Interlingua Institute (?) in New York. Failure to find references=
=20
to this sort of thing in the public record is not good evidence that it is=
=20
not just as it was presented.
 
Note that it's not a complete "intercontinental" system, since the=20
morphology and syntax (with exceptions I noted yesterday) are those of=20
Interlingua, but just Interlingua with a few words changed. That sort of=20
thing is (I would assume) fairly easy for a linguist to whip up on the spur=
=20
of the moment.
 
 
-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/
(English version: http://www.webcom.com/~donh/dona.html)
 
F. Tuglas, Mira=F8o, nun legeblas (Latin-3) =E6e
   http://www.best.com/~donh/Esperanto/Literaturo/Noveloj/miragxo.html
a=FD Unikode =E6e
   http://www.best.com/~donh/Esperanto/Literaturo/Noveloj/miragxou.html

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