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AUXLANG  November 1999, Week 5

AUXLANG November 1999, Week 5

Subject:

Eurocentricity?

From:

"Robert J. Petry, C.L." <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:53:06 -0700

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A passing thought or two.
 
It seems to me that the thinking that an "at site" language of the
"occident" cannot be more than just a "european" theatre curiosity, or
whatever, is a bit shortsighted. Not by anyone in particular, but as a
concept held by many.
 
1st. such a concept leads to inaction, with sorta, "what's the use just
use what we have".
2nd. such a concept holds back progress that could be accomplished
almost overnight, IF usage became the motivating force instead of
"status quo" is best thinking.
3rd. if such is the case, why even have a discussion list on it? there's
no future in IAL's anyway, if that is the case, so why waste our time
with a "worthless" hobby?
 
Now, why have a "naturalistic, at sight" language in the first place?
 
Here's part of how it appears to me.
 
First, we have to get as many people involved as possible and as fast as
possible if an "international" language is to work. How?
By immediately making such a language that will be reasonably understood
by at least 2 Billion people on this planet. For, that is approximately
how many would have some familiarity with, in this case, Occidental's
structure and vocabulary.
 
Once enough growth is attained within the potential immediate masses,
then the language would become more attractive outside the first sphere
or circle of speakers.
 
The second stage then would be, just as in English, the language would
become more attractive to those outside the "occidental" arena. For
those who begin to learn it, so to speak, from scratch, the grammar has
been made very simple and complete with few exceptions to worry about.
This is important for the non-occidental speaker. And, the conjugation
and affix system is very regularized and simple so the new learner isn't
thrown so many curves as in English, and other languages.
 
Finally, once established on a large scale, then with the open structure
of Occidental for just such an event, the vocabulary would gradually
change into a world language.
 
This is not the best way to describe things, but is just an over
simplified outline.
 
Now, IMO too many jump to the last stage of development which can never
begin as the "now" language. Then they say, see, Occidental, or whatever
IAL, can not do that now, so it is no good. Then someone turns around
and starts talking about the evolution of language in certain ways.
 
I would wager that not one person on this list could benchpress 100
pounds at the age of 3.
 
If a language like Occidental is ever going to be used in the way it was
meant to be, then people who are now living in the age of the 3-5 year
old [i.e. todays IAL situation by comparison], have to begin USING the
language(s) for it/them to go through the necessary stages to get to the
final stage.
 
Everyone tries to compare the fully mature weightlifter in his prime,
with the person who just walked into the gym for his first workout, and
comes to the conclusion he can't lift anything. How does he lift things?
By USING the equipment, not by standing there arguing with his coaches
that it can't be done.
 
This is how I see the arguments today in the IAL field. Seems too many
have no concept of step 1, then go to step 2, then on to step 3.
 
Step 1: Go to the audience that can grasp Occidental (or whichever you
prefer) rapidly. Build a large base.
Step 2: Go to those just outside that audience, but still within the
occidental sphere, including those all over the world who already know a
language that will lead them into easy access of Occidental (or
whichever you prefer).
Step 3: Include those from the Orient and elsewhere when they begin to
see the benefits of acquiring Occidental.
Step 4: Contemporary with step 2 and on, begin using the open
architecture of Occidental's construction to add gradually the changes
necessary to increase its base beyond the original source.
 
The above was how de Wahl and others saw the process, and he developed
Occidental with that in mind.
 
So, if we just happened to concentrate on step one, right now, and get
going, then we could get to step two quite rapidly. Besides, many people
from those language sources have given enough feedback to show
Occidental is/was easy for them to pick up and use.
Then, Step 3 would start to become more self-fulfilling.
 
No one at this stage of the game can create from scratch a language that
fulfills step three, that is just a fantasy right now. It can only be
done through progressive growth. But, the question is, who has the
foresight to do it, versus just talking about it, or more specifically,
talking always about why it can't be done.
 
Cordialmen,
Bob, x+O~

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