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AUXLANG  December 1999, Week 1

AUXLANG December 1999, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Reasons to learn planlingvoj?(estis:Re:TaketheEsperantoChallenge)

From:

Robin Turner <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:49:09 +0200

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Charles wrote:
>
> Robin Turner wrote:
> >
> > la tcarlz. cusku di'e
> >
> > > Occidental covers a larger percentage than others,
> > > and is easier to learn, so it is especially useful.
> > > It won't help you speak Chinese or clean your boots.
> >
> > Strictly speaking, Lojban covers a larger percentage than the
> > others - we have Chinese, English, Hindi, Spanish, Russian and
> > Arabic. Does this make Lojban easier to learn? Of course not!
> > The more languages you "cover", the harder it is for a speaker of
> > any one of those languages to learn the IAL, and vice versa.
>
> Your "cover" is not my cover.
>
> With Occidental, I can pick a word from the subset of English
> that is international (the latinate portion easily recognized
> in derivational series) and without using a dictionary convert
> it to at least a close approximation of Occidental by following
> the few well-known rules. Going in the reverse direction
> from Occidental to English is even much easier.
>
> Whereas with Lojban ... Let's stipulate that you were just joking.
 
No, I would have been joking if I'd said that Lojban vocabulary
_was_ easier to learn! I was being a little facetious, though,
and was trying to point out that the word "cover" can cover a
multitude of sins.
 
Obviously one can't really apply the same principles to _a
priori_ and naturalistic languages, which is why the Lojban
analogy doesn't work so well. However, you could apply the same
priniciple to different naturalistic languages...
 
Language X is based on the common vocabulary of the six
most-widely spoken languages (similar to Lojban, but taking whole
words or roots rather than mixing them up algorithmically).
 
Language Y is based on the common vocabulary of the six most
widely-spoken Indo-European languages.
 
Language Z is based on the common vocabulary of Romance
languages.
 
It would seem fairly obvious that Z would be the easiest if you
speak a Romance language, Y if you speak a non-Romance
Indo-European language, and X if you're anyone else.
 
co'o mi'e robin.

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