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AUXLANG  December 1999, Week 1

AUXLANG December 1999, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Reasons to learn planlingvoj? (estis:Re:TaketheEsperantoChallenge)

From:

Ken Caviness <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:05:19 -0500

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Charles skribis:
 
> "Donald J. HARLOW" wrote:
>
> > Simply put, there are two different schools of thought at work here:
> > relatively-easy-to-learn-for-everybody vs. relatively-easy-to-read-fo=
r-
> > those-who-count.
>
> That's simplistic and distorted.
>
> Esperanto is a *little* easier than a natural language such as
> Polish, which it so greatly resembles (Bialystok (sp.?) dialect).
> An interlingua is *greatly* easier to learn because it takes its
> roots from the languages it derives from, without mangling them.
> The difference in degree of difficulty is critical.
 
In my opinion, the above paragraph is simplistic and distorted.  Charles
measures ease of learning entirely on a scale based on root-recognizabili=
ty
from the source languages.  An alternative view is that regularity and
reduction of exceptions is more important than preservation of the
idiosyncrasies of the source languages.  I would not argue that Esperanto
does the "best possible job" of this (and even doubt whether any optimum =
is
possible), but I do think we should recognize that a trade-off exists her=
e.
 
Another trade-off is whether to learn affixes and use them to construct m=
ore
complicated words or import all these words from the source languages.  T=
here
are pros and cons to both.  But it is clear that some memorization is
involved in any case.
 
> Since the goal is to put an international language into
> widespread use, ease of learning by adults who don't have
> a lot of time or linguistic ability is the major constraint.
 
I agree.  Unless we follow what's-his-name's (*) suggestion of just makin=
g
sure that all kids around the world learn the same second language, and
voila, the language problem would be gone in one generation.
 
(* Sorry, my brain is mush today -- these 14-hour work-days are starting =
to
catch up with me.)
 
> Occidental can be put into use with just a week of study.
 
English can be used right off the shelf by an overwhelmingly large percen=
tage
of the people I deal with.
 
> There isn't anything easier for European-language speakers.
> Therefore it is the best auxlang for them/us.
>
> I do have concern for non-eurolang speakers. They must either
> learn a eurolang or use their own areal interlingua, such as
> Swahili, Arabic, or Putonghua. Someday an easy kanji interlingua
> may be devised, and then I would try to learn it.
 
I personally don't like the idea of pushing all these micro-IALs.  If a
Romance-IAL, a Slavic-IAL, an Arabic-IAL, a Putonghua-IAL, etc., etc., we=
re
in widespread use, I'd view that as only a small step toward an actual IA=
L.
Proponents of such a situation would have exerted a lot of effort for an
interim "solution" which is only marginally better than the status quo.  =
And
what would we do at that hypothetical point?  Rather than proceeding to t=
he
next (also slow) step of merging these micro-IALs into a true IAL, we mig=
ht
just force everyone to use our Romance-IAL, with its Romance quirks and
irregularities.  (Similar to the linguistic hegemony of English today.)  =
Or
at that point we might try a rationalization and simplification of the
foremost regional-IAL.  But the same problems might crop up that caused B=
asic
English to founder.
 
Amike,
Ken
 
--
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          <http://www.southern.edu/~caviness/EarnNSurf.html>
 
  *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
  | Ken CAVINESS           Physics at Southern Adventist University |
  | [log in to unmask]             ESPERANTO =3D Lingvo internacia |
  | http://southern.edu/~caviness/     E-o/English/Fran=E7ais/Deutsch |
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