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CONLANG  December 1999, Week 4

CONLANG December 1999, Week 4

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"Grandsire, C.A." <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:07:58 +0100

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Ed Heil wrote:
>
> Patrick Dunn wrote:
> > Wouldn't there need to be some kind of pressure on the octopus
> > population
> > in order to select for intelligence?
>
> I don't think that anybody is sure exactly why humans developed human
> intelligence at exactly the time they did. Selection pressure, side
> effect of heat demands on the brain from walking upright on savannahs,
> there are all kinds of ideas out there but nobody knows for sure.
>

        Mmmm... That's very true. How knows, maybe intelligence is just a side
effect of the position of the connection between the spinal column and
the head :) .

> > Hmm. Maybe we should uplift
> > octopuses; then we wouldn't be so lonely.
>
> Maybe they're already "uplifted." Perhaps they are the great
> neglected marine intelligence; everybody's busy channeling dolphins to
> produce tarot card sets, but the octopodes quietly construct their
> philosophies and poetry....
>

        Have you ever tried channeling an octopus by chance? :) Well, maybe
they just look too weird for us. After all, when people think of
monsters, there's a big chance that those monsters have tentacles...

> > I wonder what octopus speech
> > would be like. Do they make noises?
>
> Dunno. But I learned recently that if we were not fully bipedal, we
> wouldn't be able to talk like we do. A quadruped needs to co-ordinate
> breath with pace, in order to inflate the thorax so it has the
> necessary rigidity at the necessary times. A biped can breathe
> however it wants to. Chimps cannot produce the kinds of airstreams
> necessary for oral speech because their breathing follows a quadruped
> pattern -- they're only semi-bipedal at best.
>

        And for an octuped? :) Seriously I doubt that octopodes can make
noises. But with all those tentacles, maybe they are the real Rikchiks
:) .

> Ed
>

--
        Christophe Grandsire

        Philips Research Laboratories -- Building WB 145
        Prof. Holstlaan 4
        5656 AA Eindhoven
        The Netherlands

        Phone: +31-40-27-45006
        E-mail: [log in to unmask]

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