"Daniel A. Wier" wrote:

> >From: Barry Garcia <[log in to unmask]>
> >He gave two  examples of the dialect, pen and pin (I can't describe the
> >sounds accurately , but suffice to say, both words are said kind of in
> >between the sounds of both words) both sound the same, and are said the
> >same. I didn't notice it at first, but when he gave those two examples, i
> >really noticed it .
> It's a Southern/Texan thing too, except 'pen' and 'pin' are both pronounced
> [pi:In] in a bisyllabic fashion (or at least a falling diphthong).

Eh... I wouldn't call it a Texan thing, exactly.  It's more of an East Texas/Southern
thing, or maybe an rural thing, since people here just have [p_hIn] or maybe
lengthened [p_hI:n] or a very brief schwa offglide [p_hI_@n].

Another thing I've noticed about those same East Texas dialects is that
they tend to heavily nasalize their vowels, almost to the extent that the [n]
is entirely absorbed by the vowel (like what happened in French).  I heard
this from a lady from Beaumont -- that sound familiar to you?

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