Irina Rempt: > On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, BP Jonsson wrote: > > > In fact there is a terminology of "Red Irish" and "Black Irish", but the > > former refers to a light-skinned and dark-haired "Mediterranean) type still > > very much in evidence, not least in old Gaul, but also on the coast of > > Norway and the Swedish west coast. > > Isn't that "the latter"? "Red Irish", as far as I know, is the > light-skinned and freckled redhead type that everyone immediately > identifies as "Irish"; "Black Irish", for me, means very dark hair, > light skin and (optionally) startling blue eyes. Like Geraldine > McGowan, if that rings a bell for you. The flame-haired, green-eyed, freckled, untanning people I've known have chiefly though not exclusively been Irish, Scottish, Norwegian and Dutch. Yet apparently Chinese sources describe Tocharians as red haired and green-eyed. I had previously read that the depigmentation gene was basically Scandinavian, but if the Celts carried it west and the Tocharians east, then it sounds like it must have originally been associated with the ur-IE population in S. Ukraine or thereabouts. As I've said in the past, any references to up-to-date and authoritative works on physical anthropology would be gratefully received by me. ObConlang/Conculture: Apparently there was a wave of red-haired Iron-age migrants to Scungria, though I may be citing this info from an obsolete source. --And.