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Irina Rempt:
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, BP Jonsson wrote:
>
> > In fact there is a terminology of "Red Irish" and "Black Irish", but the
> > former refers to a light-skinned and dark-haired "Mediterranean) type still
> > very much in evidence, not least in old Gaul, but also on the coast of
> > Norway and the Swedish west coast.
>
> Isn't that "the latter"? "Red Irish", as far as I know, is the
> light-skinned and freckled redhead type that everyone immediately
> identifies as "Irish"; "Black Irish", for me, means very dark hair,
> light skin and (optionally) startling blue eyes. Like Geraldine
> McGowan, if that rings a bell for you.

The flame-haired, green-eyed, freckled, untanning people I've known
have chiefly though not exclusively been Irish, Scottish, Norwegian and
Dutch. Yet apparently Chinese sources describe Tocharians as red haired and
green-eyed. I had previously read that the depigmentation gene was basically
Scandinavian, but if the Celts carried it west and the Tocharians east, then
it sounds like it must have originally been associated with the ur-IE
population in S. Ukraine or thereabouts.

As I've said in the past, any references to up-to-date and authoritative
works on physical anthropology would be gratefully received by me.

ObConlang/Conculture: Apparently there was a wave of red-haired Iron-age
migrants to Scungria, though I may be citing this info from an obsolete
source.

--And.