>>> "Anthony M. Miles" <[log in to unmask]> 06/13 3:31  >>>
>Once I saw an example of a natlang (forgot the name) that
>has two phonologies: women say [r@k@rk@n] where
>men say [c@k@cc@n] or the other way round.
>That inspired me for a conlang where men pronounce
>the /s/ as [r]. Also, /pp/ is pronounced by men as [p'] and by
>women as [ph].
>(de-lurking for a little while)

What is its name? Does [r]< [z], an allphone of /s/?
I have the Cambridge Language Surveys' _The languages of Australia_ by Dixon
here with me. The  Lardil tribe of Mornington Island speak Lardil, but until
'recently' also spoke a secret language called Damin. Damin possessed four
nasalized clicks, an ingressive lateral fricative, a glottalized velar stop,
an ejective bilabial stop, a fourth vowel, and used length as a
non-contrastive feature. None of these appear in Lardil. Lardil has nineteen
pronouns and several demonstratives; Damin has a dinstinction between 'ego'
and 'other', lacking even first, second, and third person pronouns. The
grammatical structure, however, is identical to Lardil.

Don't forget to mention that the Lardil ingressive lateral fricative is a
*pulmonic* one!

I have forgotten the name of the natlang with this s/r feature. It is Asian or
My conlang has no name yet. I'm experimenting very much with the
project Nine as Dan Wier has proposed: make a lang with max. 9 phonemes.
I try to make more sounds by allowing a lot of allophones. And then I thought
of this s/r thing.
So, untill I have sorted out what sounds I want, I start with the rest.
Maybe I never get that far, I like the juggling with the sounds so much