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I agree with Chollie: approximants are seemingly nothing more than a hindrance when it comes to deciding whether or not to make them vowels, semi-vowels or consonants. Though they exist in Kartesian, I had thought a couple of times to exclude them. Future languages by me will most likely not include R and L. > Chollie wrote: > > Might I suggest that we eliminate approximants? For instance, r could > >be deleted, perhaps coloring neighboring vowels (like in Boston English) > and > >l could be velarized - with subsequent monophthongization of diphthongs? I > >think that would take us closer to CVCVCV. > I think the gods of Proto Polynesian would permit loss of r (indeed, it > happened-- merged with l). Why not velarized? Poly-Latino with an east > Eur. accent. -- Josh :)