"H. S. Teoh" wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:12:17AM +0200, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote: > [snip] > > Ah, degrees of volition! And an interesting morphology. > > Oooooh!! So *that's* what degrees of volition means! :-) > I'm having a hard time figuring out a good word to describe my > incidental/deliberative/consequential. I currently call it "focus", but > that doesn't sound very appropriate. Is "degrees of volition" an > "official" term for this concept? Or at least, a widely-understood term? > I'd like to adopt it if so. I haven't found the term in any linguistics book (though "volition" is "official" terminology), but coined it myself. I think it is pretty intuitive, and it did catch on quite well in that old thread. > > > > Admit that you have stolen the idea from Nur-ellen! ;-) > > Well, I was seeing these huge threads about degrees of volition in active > languages not long ago, but I had no idea what it was referring to! Little > did I know that I already have the same concept in my own conlang :-) I think this is something that happens quite often to conlangers. When I designed Nur-ellen, the concept of an active language was something I had "discovered" by myself, and didn't know that it already existed even in natlangs and there was a term for it. > [snip] > > Nur-ellen also grammaticalizes degrees of volition, though in a very > > different way, namely by using different cases and prepositions with the > > subject. > [snip] > > Ah, this is interesting. The speakers of my conlang view things in a more > impersonal, 3rd-person type of way, so the main thing in a verbal sentence > is the verb, the main event. Hence, the degree of volition is associated > with the verb rather than the noun. This is the difference between "head-marking" and "dependent-marking" languages, I think. The former mark semantic relations on the verb, the latter on the noun. Nur-ellen is dependent-marking; it doesn't inflect verbs for person or number, only for tense. Semantic relations are marked on the nouns by cases and prepositions. Most active natlangs, however, seem to be head-marking, as exemplified by Dakota. > Of course, this also makes for some weird noun cases, but I'll save that > for my next tidbit post to the list :-) I look forward to them! Joerg.