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>From: Carlos Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:28:14 -0500
>
>Aydam Wawker wabbe:
> > Consonants in IPA (pseudo-SAMPA):
> >
    Dental    Alveolar  Retro PostA.Palatal  Velar    Uvular
> > t[`        t`  s`    t.`  S`    c`        k`       q`
> > t[_j       t_j       t._j       c_j       k_j      q_j
> > ts   t.s.  tC  t.C.  tS   t.S.  ts\  cs\  ks kx    qx qX
> >
> >                      tl   t.l. kl_w  cs[ cC ks\ kS qs\ qS
>
>I'm not sure which are the point of articulations, and I understood
>SAMPA used ` as retroflex mark... Well, what are ` representing?
>

Oops!  Sorry.  I've corrected that above!

> > Okay, I said pseudo-SAMPA 'cause I don't know how to properly
>represent the
> > sounds in the bottommost row.  The <tl> is the lateral stop. The
><t.l.> is a
> > retroflexed or backed version of same.  The <kl_w> is a velar
>lateral stop.
> > The <cs[> is an affricate formed of [c] and a very dental "s" sound.
> >
> > Vowels (same IPA standard applies):
> >
> > i  1
> > I  @\
> > E  @
> >
> > I thought about including [e], but I'm unsure of the symbol for the
>central
> > vowel at the same hight.  I also thought of including the vowel
>between [i]
> > and [I] with its corresponding central vowel, but I'm unsure if
> > representations for said are even possible.
>
>Well, the central tense vowel at the height of [e] is IPA mirrowed e,
>[@\] in SAMPA if I remember correctly.  The central tense vowel at the
>height of [E] is IPA mirrowed epsylon, [3] in SAMPA.  Acording to the
>chart, the schwa is a lax vowel between [@\] and [3].
>
> > Now comes the NASTY part -- orthography.  What am I gonna do with
>THIS
> > mess!?  *relishing his quagmireous quandry*
> >
> > I have considered the following:
> >
> > t      d      x      c     k     q
> > tj     dj     xj     cj    kj    qj
> > ts tsr ds dsr tz tzr tc cc kc kh qh qx
> > (s sr  z  zr  h  hr  tc cc kc kh qh qx) alternative to the above
> >
> > tl tlr kl css cs kss ks qss qs
> >
> > But I would appreciate any alternative schemes anyone would like to
>suggest!
> >
> > Vowel orthography:
> >
> > i  u
> > y  o
> > e  a
> >
> > I don't especially like having <y> represent [I] and I really hate
><u> for
> > [1] and <o> for [@\].
> >
> > Sugjeschuns??
>
>   i  ?>   e  ?>   a  ?>  or something like that?
>
>   Well, could also be
>   i  ?>   ?e
>   ??>
>but there are to many diacritics.

Drat.  All letters with diacritics come out as ? or Chinese characters on
this machine!  Wish they had more fonts loaded on this thing.

Adam
>
> > Adam

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