Roger Mils wabbe: [...] > so, as I recall at Michigan, Pike's students called him Ken, but William > Gedney (in Thai linguistics, and possibly even older than Pike) was NEVER > Bill, but Prof. or Mr. > So it depends..... > > Rant dept: Sometimes we carry this firstname stuff too far. I resent being > addressed as Roger by bank tellers, telemarketers and others of that ilk > with whom I have no other social interaction. Probably the only facet of my > personality that can be called conservative. End rant. Well, in my college, actually in Engeneering faculty and specially in the Electronics departament all full time teachers, and I guess all teachers actually, were called by first name. Departament's chief was "Pacho" from Francisco Viveros. If you didn't want to use the first name the safest way was call them "ingeniero". In Colombia the custom is to call any graduate, or actually anybody wearing a tie, "doctor". In many academic circles this custom had led into the word "doctor" to be of lower cathegory than, say "ingeniero", unless you are a real doctor (either MD, ScD or PhD). Even all PhD at Electronic Department preffered to be called "ingeniero" reather then "doctor", but they preffered their first name. My degree work leader "Ing. Pedro Raúl Vizcaya Guarín, PhD", was just "Pedro" for me. I personaly call nobody as "doctor", except MDs or very respectable ScD or PhD, as my math teacher, "Professor Carlos Ruiz, ScD". -- Carlos Th who was usually called "Thompson" in high school, "Carlos" in college and "Ingeniero", "Ingeniero Thompson" or "Carlos" at work.