>===== Original Message From Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]> ===== >> >>> So the childhood expression of derision (a raspberry) is essentially an >>> unvoiced linguolabial trill? >> >>Well, sort of. The stops involve the top lip, whereas the raspberry >>trills the bottom lip. > >kind of OT: >Ugh...I feel so silly discussing paralinguistic childhood sounds, but I got >the child terminology wrong, what I mean is when you kind of stick out your >tongue against the top lip and ... well ... "Bbbbbbbbbbbb", accompanied by >a "you can't catch me" or suchlike action. AFAICT there's two different sounds being described here with the same name. The one I'm familiar with is simply an ordinary bilabial trill. Yours I don't think I've ever seen anyone make, except on TV, and involves sticking the tongue out as well. Hence probably the misunderstanding. *Muke! -- http://www.southern.edu/~alrivera/ ICQ: 1936556 AIM: MukeTurtle "We're making the Internet easier to use by keeping you from using all of it."