> > with a whole whistle series (though for the life if me I cannot > pronounce > > a > > velar whistle, and the closest to a palatal I can get is a hiss), > though I > > don't know how one would romanize that, and I'm a stickler for nice > > orthography. - I usually represent the whistling sounds that come out when i follow the directions on the Throat Signing website someone posted here a while ago as S (voiceless) and Z (voiced), with acute accents on top. Like in the name of one of my RPG characters, Zup'oakq, with an acute on the Z, a macron on the U, and a hacek on the A. The <P'> is ejective.... and the <KQ> is some kind of deep-throated stop consonant, maybe epiglottal or pharyngeal. -Stephen (Steg) "...but you can just call me 'Bo'."