Andreas Johansson wrote:

> Thomas Wier wrote:
> > > OK. I was probably being westerncentric. Let me restate it as "th", "ng"
> > > and retroflex /r/ are difficult form most foreigners in Europea or
> >America.
> >
> >Don't Icelandic and Danish have the voiced interdental fricative [D]?
> They do, tho' Danish don't have a phonemic contrast /d/-/D/ IIRC.

Ah, okay.

> Icelandic also have /T/.

I thought so, although I wasn't entirely sure about this.  There is a song
on the album _Post_ by Björk where she can't get the English [T] right
(she pronounces it more like a postalveolar voicless fricative IIRC), and so
I'd wondered since that time where modern Icelandic has what English
speakers use for [T].

> >Certainly, Mexican Spanish* regularly shifts intervocalic** voiced stops
> >to their fricative counterparts:
> >
> >     /abogado/ 'advocate, lawyer'  --> [aBoGaDo]
> What varieties of Spanish don't do this? According to my handbook, Standard
> Castillian does it.

I had been under the impression that some South American varieties of Spanish
do not, but I am not a hispanicist, hence my hedging to just Mexican Spanish.

Thomas Wier | AIM: trwier

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