[log in to unmask] writes: >I don't recall if, or how, Montreiano preserves the preterit, but would >this >change also show up in the 3sing.? Span. debió, murió (or in the pres. >1sing. of -iar verbs (there aren't many)? confiar: confío. -- Or would the >stress prevent the change? Hmm-- not in naziún, I see). How about with an >intervening consonant, as in Span. pres.1 digo, pret.3 dijo, hizo? Of >course, M. forms may not correspond due to sound changes. Lots of >interesting possibilities. Montreiano is a kind of odd duck with the verbs and sound changes. For instance, usually, after an alveolar consonant, and consonant clusters of the same type (t, d, n, l, s, nt, nd, ns, ls, ts, etc) , final e drops: claramente - clarament, but: venir - vine, not: vin. Much of the reason for this break with the rules is to preserve the words. Anyway, stress tends to cause o to become u, however as in the case of propiu, it sometimes doesnt (i attribute it to the /j/ causing the change: /'propju/). I guess you could say there's a developing trend for o to change to u in certain cases. ____________________________________________ Ancient Goth: someone who overthrew the Roman Empire. Modern Goth: a vegetarian pretending to be a vampire.