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At 03.32 p.m. 5.10.2001, you wrote:
>duc       /duk/        sounds like "duke"

No it doesn't! maybe if it were 'giuc' (that is, /dZu:k/) (assuming it acts
like italian in that respect), I could agree. But it's not.

Tristan, having a go at people for trying to describe pronunciation in
terms of a language well known for it's dialectal variety.