On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:07:53 EDT David Peterson <[log in to unmask]> writes: > If you can find an Arabic sample, it's the letter called "ayn". > Kind of > sounds like choking. The easiest way to think about it is this: If > you try > to make the purest [i], and then greatly constrict the place of > articulation > and try to throw a vowel after it, you'll naturally get a [j]; if > you do the > same thing with [u] you get [w]; if you do the same thing with [A] > you get > the sound above. So, make an [A], and then greatly constrict the > passage; > you'll get a [?/] (and I'm sorry I don't know the official symbol > for this). > -David - I usually use the symbol  for `ayn... i've seen it in a few Arabic transliteration systems and its a simple one-character generally rare symbol for ASCII IPA. -Stephen (Steg) "mew. mew hast. mew hast meep!"