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Quoting David Peterson <[log in to unmask]>:


> Present Tense:
> 1.) bo malab.  ("I run", present tense.)
> 2.) bo kun gabab.  ("I see you" present tense.)

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> Past Tense:
> 3.) bo malanab.  ("I ran")
> 4.) kun bo gabanak.  ("You saw me.")
>
>     Look at number four!  Essentially what you've done from number two
> to number one is put the verb in the past tense, switch the order of the
> pronouns and made the verb agree with object instead of the subject.
> That's exactly what Kurdish does!  It's as if in the switch from present to
> past and accusative to ergative they switched the semantics of the affixes!
> It's so confusing!

If you're interested in a good, if dense, book about ergativity,
check out Dixon's book by that name (i.e., "Ergativity").  It has
extended discussion about how languages can slip into ergative
constructions in past/perfective constructions.

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but in setting up the life of a society, and if he holds, further,
that within that society (however defined) all men have equal rights,
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to set something or someone on fire." Peter Green, in _From Alexander
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