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En réponse à wayne chevrier <[log in to unmask]>: > Lisanek is the first language I have made that is more than a sketch, > and I > think it is time for it to make its first public appearance. > At the moment it is mostly grammar and not vocabulary, so I will mostly > use > English words. Kind of like my Itakian :) (though Itakian grammar is a little too complex to show without examples in the language itself :( ). > Grammar: > Cases: 2 ergative and absolutive;only for pronouns(nouns have no > cases) > Ergative: > 1)subject of transitive verb > 2)object of following preposition Ergative's used for object of prepositions? Though I think it makes sense (I've heard of a universal that says that unmarked cases are never used with prepositions, hence nominative-accusative languages never use nominative with prepositions - Esperanto being an exception, but since it's an artificial language it doesn't count -), I don't know if it's usual. Anybody knows of an ergative language with prepositions which could be an example? > 3)before non-construct nouns: demonstrative > 4)before construct nouns: possessive Nice idea. It's the form of the completed noun that gives the function of the completing adjective. I like those kinds of transfers (that's why I love trigger languages :) ). > Absolutive: > 1)object of transitive verb > 2)subject of intransitive verb > 3)in nominal sentences > 4)any other situation > States: > Construct:-ha after V, -a after C > Used to indicate possession > Sam honok-a: Sam's book > Non-construct: otherwise > Articles: > vowels: > e: feminine singular > i: f. plural > o: masculine sg. > u: m. pl. > consonants: > k: definite > n: indefinite > s: indeterminate/generic > after C:-vc > after V:-cv > if the c in the article=C at the end of the root, they merge: Cv > similarily if v=V :Vc Interesting. Is it meant to be naturalistic? If so, I'd like to know where it comes from. > Gender: > Feminine: female humans and animals, default for non-human animate, > abstract, personifications, concepts, spiritual entities, etc. > Masculine: male humans and animals, default for humans, inanimate > objects, > gerunds Very interesting. The two genders seem to have quite different use, but none seems more important or "better" than the other. A very egalitarian society? :)) > Adjectives: > None, either nouns in apposition or verb in conjunct form(used for > relative > clauses) Why not possession? There are languages (African I believe) that translate "beautiful woman" as "woman of beauty" or "beauty of woman". Couldn't it be an idea for nouns, rather than simple apposition? > Nominal sentences: > No verb, just a predicate marker > e.g. She is a doctor.: 3f.ABS PRED doctor.a > There are butterflies.: PRED butterflies > PRED: a Zen sentence:) > The man who left the room is a lawyer: > man.the leave.CONJUNCT room.the PRED lawyer.a > > This is just a start, and I would appreciate comments. > -Wayne Chevrier > Well, so far I find it interesting. I long to see how it turns out. Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr