On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 11:49 , David Peterson wrote: > In a message dated 10/31/01 11:04:14 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > > << (much > more so than for instance [o] and [O]) >> > > These two vowels are so different that one may as well be an > obstruent. > I cannot imagine how anyone could possibly mix these two up, whereas > mixing > up [e] and [E] doesn't seem unreasonable to me. I'm beginning to think > it's > just my ears... :-) It happens with my ears, too, but that's because of my dialect (?) of English, which differentiates between [o] and [O] but neglects [e] and [E] (it took a couple years of French for me to realize there *was* a difference), and also because of Korean, which doesn't have [O], and *theoretically* differentiates between [e] and [E], but that distinction is all but dead among (Seoul-area?) speakers of my generation. Yoon Ha Lee [[log in to unmask]] http://pegasus.cityofveils.com People say I'm indecisive, but I'm not sure about that.