On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 02:33 , SuomenkieliMaa wrote: > --- Yoon Ha Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Possible examples: >> "Yoon" txo ~= I *am* Yoon, dammit! >> Yoon *will* exist! >> "Yoon" ga ~= Are you Yoon? >> Is there a Yoon? >> "Yoon" nai ~= Yoon exists or is here. >> >> Note that <txo> can be used in a fashion similar (?) >> to the Japanese yo, >> <ga> in a fashion similar to Japanese ka. (At least >> as I understand them.) > > Nice little feature, also like Korean _anmida_ isn't > You mean _amnida_? :-) (Er...I hope that's right. Eep.) > it? Just wondering, what if you just want to say "I'm > Yoon" as in Jpn "Yoon desu". Your txo is way too > strong, if it is the equivalent of Jpn yo. Is it nai > then? Hmm, but nai somehow makes me think the > negative "I'm not Yoon" (probably because it is the > negative in Jpn!)... BTW, is this always used for any > Yeah--I hadn't thought of the Japanese negative, but you're right. (Then again, I know very little Japanese.) "Yoon-en" would be something like "I'm Yoon." "Yoon-nai" would be something like "There is a Yoon." The main difference between the two is that you could say "Yoon unicorn-en"--Yoon is a unicorn (but unicorns, at least to my knowledge, don't exist). You couldn't say "Yoon unicorn-nai" because that makes an additional statement about existence that isn't there with the "en" copula. Does that make any sense? > register of speech? For instance, you know that desu > --> da or desuyo --> (da)yo in Jpn... same in > Tasratal? > My *vague* understanding from various subbed anime is that da is less formal. Is that correct? I actually haven't figured out registers of speech in Tasratal; for the moment they don't exist. One meep at a time.. . >> Possible examples: >> "Yoon" en. ~= (I'm) Yoon. > > Eh? So, how is Yoon en different from Yoon nai ? > The copula is en, not nai - right? > See above... > Oh, I love these little markers! You're so creative > with that implied "dammit" meaning and all. I think I > can do somethiing like that in Vyh with my honorific > _hy'yy_ used in conjunction with negativizor _ox_. > Thank you. :-) What does _hy'yy_ by itself usually signify? > Too much more to comment on, so I'll close early. > Nice job, I for one like the logic to it! Thanks! Your comments are really helpful, too; they force me to clarify what the heck is going on with the language. :-) Doomo arigatoo! Yoon Ha Lee [[log in to unmask]] http://pegasus.cityofveils.com Entropy isn't what it used to be.