En réponse à Aquamarine Demon <[log in to unmask]>: Speaking > of > "French" names, is Cheryl really a French name? Or does it just look > like > one? > I've always thought it was an American name misused by French people (we get more and more children with American names mispronounced in a French way. I call it the "soap-opera effect" :)) ). > > Really? I love French. Except when there's a really hard word that > twists > my tongue... like I don't think I can say "sûr" right... for some > reason > that word's hard to say. You must have problems with the front rounded high vowel, /y/ in SAMPA and IPA. Most English speaking people can put their tongue around it :) . Just try to pronounce an /i/ like in 'see', but make a round with your lips, like if you pronounced the vowel in 'foot' (I think). Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.