Am 24.01.02, Christophe Grandsire yscrifef: > No it's not. In "writer", the first and last sounds are acoustically identical, > with the difference that one IS USED as a consonant and the second one as a > vowel. Yes, there may be a little difference in length, but not of place of > articulation or position of the tongue. Call it a semivowel and have done, then! And by the way, the first sound is [WR], while the last is [R]. You Unroundophone, you! In "righter", I'd agree, but see no reason to niggle over whether the Rs are consonants or vowels. > Christophe. Padraic. -- Gwerez dah, chee gwaz vaz, ha leal.